1080p DVD player with a 720p native display that can also accept 1080p signals

[dmargole]

Folks,

I am able to exchange my Pioneer dv-46av dvd player for a Denon 1930ci. The only reason I am considering exchanging the unit is because the Denon can put out a 1080p signal - The Pioneer DVD player goes up to 1080i. My TV is a Pioneer Elite PRO-940HD which can accept a 1080p signal, but I believe it's native mode is 720p. The DVD player is connected to my TV via HDMI cables So my questions are...

1) Will I notice the increased quality of a 1080p dvd player given my TV runs in 720p native mode (The TV can accept a 1080p signal)

2)I really don't notice any difference in picture quality flipping from 480->720p->1080i on the Pioneer DVD player - although from reading other posts on this forums that may be because it is using a HDMI cable. - but... given I don't notice any difference - should I even bother considering going with a 1080p signal.

Thanks
Dean

 

[BMXTRIX]

Dean - No.

Your display is 720p and that is what you should typically try to feed it. If there are other benefits to upgrading your DVD player such as improved scaling and processing, then that's a different story, but I wouldn't bet on it. The Pioneers do a pretty bang up job of video processing and they would be something I would be really happy with.

If you really want to get more out of your display and need to spend some cash, pick up a HD disc player. The PS3 or the X360+add-on or a stand alone Toshiba can be had for about $500 - take your pick. HD discs will deliver a much better image to your display.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Folks,

I am able to exchange my Pioneer dv-46av dvd player for a Denon 1930ci. The only reason I am considering exchanging the unit is because the Denon can put out a 1080p signal - The Pioneer DVD player goes up to 1080i. My TV is a Pioneer Elite PRO-940HD which can accept a 1080p signal, but I believe it's native mode is 720p. The DVD player is connected to my TV via HDMI cables So my questions are...

1) Will I notice the increased quality of a 1080p dvd player given my TV runs in 720p native mode (The TV can accept a 1080p signal)

2)I really don't notice any difference in picture quality flipping from 480->720p->1080i on the Pioneer DVD player - although from reading other posts on this forums that may be because it is using a HDMI cable. - but... given I don't notice any difference - should I even bother considering going with a 1080p signal.

Thanks
Dean

Just one thing to add to what was said by bmx. That DVD player only up-scales standard def DVD to 1080p not read a 1080p DVD such as the HD he suggested.

 

[dmargole]

Dean - No.

Your display is 720p and that is what you should typically try to feed it. If there are other benefits to upgrading your DVD player such as improved scaling and processing, then that's a different story, but I wouldn't bet on it. The Pioneers do a pretty bang up job of video processing and they would be something I would be really happy with.

If you really want to get more out of your display and need to spend some cash, pick up a HD disc player. The PS3 or the X360+add-on or a stand alone Toshiba can be had for about $500 - take your pick. HD discs will deliver a much better image to your display.

Hi and thanks for your reply - I am going to stay with a standard dvd player until the bluray/HD wars are over.

My question was stemming from something that I read indicating that a 1080p signal delivers near HD quality from a standard dvd suggesting that it was superior to the image that a 1080i player can provide. My display provides a native 1024x768 resolution which from what I understand from a cnet article is not 720p - 720p is 1,280x720 - so does this mean I should still feed the display a 720p signal?

You mentioned that unless the DVD player has improved upscaling and processing that I should not bother. But the thing is that Denon has a Faroudja chip, I have no idea if Faroudja is superior to the Pioneer processor, however, The Denon can also upconvert a standard DVD to 1080p (instead of the Pioneers DVD ability to go 1080i), so from a upconverting standpoint it seems that Denon would have the edge. But... I am also very aware of your comment about feeding the display a 720p signal. So I am now more confused than ever. Sorry for being so dense on this one.

 

[BMXTRIX]

It boils down to the processing capabilities of the chip on the DVD player. Forget the resolution. I can give you an $80.00 Samsung DVD player - if you think it's going to look as good as your Pioneer, then you're crazy! Many people are suckered by resolutions and upconversion. DO NOT BUY INTO IT!

What you want, above everything else, is a quality product, and you already have it with the Pioneer. Spending a fair bit of money on a DVD player upgrade doesn't make much sense in my opinion for what will likely be perceived as no image improvement at all.