10" Titanic MKIII $349

[Buckeyefan 1]

A few members at AVS have been comparing this sub to the SVS PB10 recently. PE has discounted this sub a bit, and with free shipping, may just be the bargain entry level "high end" sub for a modest size room. One member even compared it to the 1000 watt 15" sealed MKIII selling for almost $700 and said it beat it hands down. This thing weighs in at 64lbs.

http://www.partexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-760

 

[Sheep]

is there any measurments on this sub?

SheepStar

 

[Tomorrow]

"Useful bass down to 30Hz"....? Not so hot for the money, me thinks, for HT, especially. Jaxvon's STF-1 should outperform this Dayton...and he didn't have to put it together. And...they're only discounting it a whopping 9 dollars.

Buck, you are THE man when it comes to finding good deals...but you could lose a badge or two with this one.

 

[Sheep]

List price 569

SheepStar

 

[Tomorrow]

List price 569

SheepStar

Regular price $358

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

I think the 10" Titanic can hold it's own. Compare specs:

HSU STF-1

8" woofer
Bass extension +/- 2 dB: 32 Hz; 31.5 Hz at 106dB
weight ~35lbs.
150 watt amp
Dimensions: 19”(h)/11”(w)/16”(d)

Titanic MKIII 10"

10" woofer
will produce roughly 105 dB at 30Hz
250 watt class-AB amp (itself weighs 12lbs)
weight ~55lbs.
Dimensions: 14" W x 14" H x 14-1/4" D
*3/4" MDF enclosure featuring internal brace, a special satin textured enamel finish, 1/4" roundovers on all edges, and a 1" thick MDF grill
*can be easily assembled in approximately 1 hour

Now, compare the specs of the MKIII 10" to the VTF-2. Other than box size and price, they're pretty close in specs. Would I take the MKIII over the VTF-2 - price being equal and for HT? - No, but then again, we're not talking apples to apples either. The size of the box has a lot to do with tuning, and a larger box yields better low end results for HT. $349 vs $526. Some would argue the SVS PB10 would beat out the VTF-2 head on at a smaller price.

Here's a review:
http://www.onhifi.com/product/dayton_titanicsub.htm

 

[Sheep]

Regular price $358

tuche

SheepStar

 

[Tomorrow]

I think the 10" Titanic can hold it's own. Compare specs:

will produce roughly 105 dB at 30Hz
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That's sort of the bottom line. Isn't it? But if you read the review/sales pitch, these are separate items. The sub will do 105 db AND offer a bottom (sort of) of 30Hz. The comment in the review was, as I stated, "Useful bass to 30Hz". That's much different from the way you're presenting it. 105 db @ 30Hz is huge, not just "useful". "Useful bass", assuming 30Hz is the rolloff point, should reach 20Hz. The HSU STF-1 has "useful" bass to 25Hz. (I know. I measured it.) I don't have the figures in front of me, nor wish to look them up right now, but I'll wager the SVS-ISD12 (nor perhaps even the Ultra) won't come anywhere near 105 @ 30.

Finally, there were no specs to back any of those PE reviewer statements, in any regard. I think this is a 'get what you pay for' sub, Buck.

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Here's some good info (if you have the time) on the Titanic subs. Keep in mind, they are sealed, and are compact, so you are going to get a different sound as opposed to larger, vented enclosures. If you go back far enough, they discuss the 10" version. This thread deals with the 15".

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=602452

Without comparing both subs in a room together, it's hard to say which is better overall. My experience with subs is that you'll get more usable dB with a larger amp in a smaller enclosure. You'll obviously need more power in a sealed enclosure - box size being equal, but we're not talking same sized enclosures.

You'll find larger vented enclosures yielding lower bass, but will run out of steam sooner with smaller amps. You have to take into consideration where most of the bass output is (what Hz), and determind if you really need a sub that plays extremely low but sacrifices a higher percentage of bass in the upper Hz bass range. In a small room, the STF-1 is great. But having a budget of around $350 in a larger room may push one towards a Titanic 10".

If you choose the right sub in the right size room, you can't go wrong. Jaxvon's STF-1 is perfect in a dorm room/smaller apartment, but it may not hold up in a larger 12x16 living room for overall bass output.

 

[Tomorrow]

Here's some good info (if you have the time) on the Titanic subs. Keep in mind, they are sealed, and are compact, so you are going to get a different sound as opposed to larger, vented enclosures. If you go back far enough, they discuss the 10" version. This thread deals with the 15".

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=602452

Without comparing both subs in a room together, it's hard to say which is better overall. My experience with subs is that you'll get more usable dB with a larger amp in a smaller enclosure. You'll obviously need more power in a sealed enclosure - box size being equal, but we're not talking same sized enclosures.

You'll find larger vented enclosures yielding lower bass, but will run out of steam sooner with smaller amps. You have to take into consideration where most of the bass output is (what Hz), and determind if you really need a sub that plays extremely low but sacrifices a higher percentage of bass in the upper Hz bass range. In a small room, the STF-1 is great. But having a budget of around $350 in a larger room may push one towards a Titanic 10".

If you choose the right sub in the right size room, you can't go wrong. Jaxvon's STF-1 is perfect in a dorm room/smaller apartment, but it may not hold up in a larger 12x16 living room for overall bass output.

Buck, I tend to agree with your thinking here. But still, we have no data on the 10" Dayton. We'd just have to get both these subs in a room together. You were speculatively preferring the Dayton based upon some misinformation, but I think you'll now agree that 105 db at 30Hz is not correct. That was my prime point.