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  1. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    Ok. that can work. However, just take a minute to think about why the SUB-ONLY Configuration could work best for you if you ignore the "Optional" MSO Filter Response suggestion for the AVR. I'll explain; If you use the Sub-Only configuration, then in essence what you will be creating is the...
  2. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    Hey Alex, It seems like you are overlooking some of the key settings in MSO which allow you to set the limits/parameters for whatever hardware you plan on using. Like I mentioned earlier, the MSO instructions are not necessarily written for folks who are just starting out with this hobby (ask me...
  3. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    Just bringing this over from another thread that delt with Gain Matching vs Level Matching, where Craig (a contributor) wrote: "When you gain-match, you want to measure the raw output of the subwoofer, with as little impact from the room as possible. That is why it is recommended to move the...
  4. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    I'll start by saying that you should set range to optimize in MSO a little wider, perhaps 20Hz to 150hz. That will give you more room to decide where to set the final Crossover post AVR calibration. Remember that with a sub only optimisation you are looking to create the best combined...
  5. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    I completely understand, I have a 7 year old at home myself so most of my measurements are late at night when everyone's asleep. If you can, send some information about the room and gear, things like dimensions and also the speakers and subwoofers models. Also some screen shots of the settings...
  6. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    If you want to rule out the HDMI and ASIO4ALL, use the JAVA setup and send the audio out of the headphone port on your laptop to the AVR. This would limit the output sources to Left or Right speaker or Both (L+R). you would still follow the same instructions which would be to send the sweep to...
  7. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    Interesting... the MSO graph looks good yet it seems like there is still a crossover activate somewhere around 80Hz to90Hz. However, based on the two graphs it appears like part of the issue is happening some where after your MSO optimization. Let's do this... I'm going to read through part of...
  8. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    You're welcome, and I hope it helps. Here are the answers to the unclear parts: 4. I don't think there's a benefit nor a downside to using the tone from the AVR to gain match the subs so long as you follow the same process. However just know that because of the proximity of the microphone to...
  9. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    Hello again, Glad the unit is working again. At first glance it looks to me like your GREEN line is just showing the measured response from your MAIN Speakers WITHOUT the SUBS. Which means that you might be taking your final measurements with the MAINS set to LARGE, and this is in effect leaving...
  10. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    That's unfortunate that the volume is an issue. I have a few ideas as to why that could be including how the subs are set prior to running the software and AVR calibration. However, I'm going to make a suggestion that I believe could help you get a solid grip on the process manually albeit...
  11. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    For reference, here is a picture of the results at the MLP in my room. Red line is all 4 subs combined without adjustments (RAW). The Black line is what MSO predicted after its computation. The Blue line is the measured response after adding the results from MSO to the MiniDSP.
  12. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    Hello, Alex, and welcome to the group. It seems like there's a lot to unpack here since your questions deal with both REW and MSO. I'll start by saying that both programs have a bit of a learning curve which take some time to adjust to. Neither one of them is a quick fix, that is, until you...
  13. Wellz

    MSO- Multi Sub Optimizer Beginners Thread

    This part took me for a loop as the say! I set the rate in REW to 96 kHz but then didn't change the MSO Hardware from 48 kHz to 96 as I should have. I ran MSO and the results look great but when I uploaded the Biquads into my new 2x4HD (which is set at 96kHz) the results looked horrible. Luckly...
  14. Wellz

    MiniDSP 2x4 HD + Receiver Independent Sub Out

    Hopefully you've already figured out that option B (AVR sub out 1 ----> MiniDSP Input 1--->Route all subs to input 1). It took me some time to understand the goal of multiple subwoofers. At first I thought more subwoofers equal more bass. And I also did not understand that no matter how many...
  15. Wellz

    Home Theater Multiple Subwoofer Set-Up & Calibration Guide

    Hello, Gene. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on using 3 subs (SVS SB12-NSD) versus just keeping 2 facing each other on opposite walls per the Welti suggestion? Trying to figure out what the benefit would be and if it's worth the added expense?
  16. Wellz

    Two questions for Gene (or any other member) of Audioholics...

    The exhaust on this projector is in the front. If you look at the pic there are two grills in the front, one of them is the exhaust. The other is the intake and filter. Also directily in front (though not visible in the pics)is an air conditioning return duct that sucks up the heat.
  17. Wellz

    Two questions for Gene (or any other member) of Audioholics...

    My AVR allows for 6 independent Memory slots where you can save different calibrations, and cycle through them at the press of a button. MCACC PRO is customizable. I can have it do a Full Auto Calibration and/or I can select which areas I want it to calibrate. It also includes the ability to...
  18. Wellz

    Two questions for Gene (or any other member) of Audioholics...

    Good morning all. Thanks again for all your input. I will read through all of the suggestions you guys posted. As far as issues in the room, I don't exactly know that I have any, however I haven't been formally trained in listening to speakers in perfect rooms ect., so I don't have a...
  19. Wellz

    Projector placement help

    actually check out some more recent pics in post #4 here https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/two-questions-for-gene-or-any-other-member-of-audioholics.110756/#post-1238270
  20. Wellz

    Two questions for Gene (or any other member) of Audioholics...

    Thank you both for your answers. I've attached some pics of the room for reference. With regard to the 7.2.4 system etc, here are the specs. Pioneer Elite SC-99 AVR driving the Left, Center, Right, Side Surrounds and 4 atmos enabled speakers (it's 11 channels but only 9 channel with...
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