JBL 75W continuous power

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ifsixwasnin9

Audioholic
My vintage JBLs are rated at 75W continuous power (8ohms) and 150W max. Would an amp rated at 140wpc (8ohms) be overkill for these speakers?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
No, and a 300w amp would be fine, too. Your're giving too much importance to the max continuous power spec for a speaker, one of the least important specs. A good rule of thumb, if it sounds bad, turn it down.
 
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ifsixwasnin9

Audioholic
Wouldn't a 75wpc amp be fine for driving these speakers? I use a 100wpc amp and does fine but curious about a higher powered amp.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Wouldn't a 75wpc amp be fine for driving these speakers? I use a 100wpc amp and does fine but curious about a higher powered amp.
Pretty much any amp can drive them to an extent. Don't concentrate on the specific wattage so much....
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I can get a Denon receiver 125-140wpc for good price and don't know if I should go for it. Thanks.
I would chose a Denon avr on the amp section last, and would look at the connectivity/adjustment levels first. Difference from a 100wpc to a 150wpc is still relatively small, altho having a bigger power supply is nice
 
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ifsixwasnin9

Audioholic
What do you mean by connectivity/adjustment levels? Tone controls and RCA wires?
I use a 4-Band EQ with my Yamaha AX596 amp to dial in best volume/tone in my room. Room was 13x15x7 but just moved and room is now 12x12x8. I have Monoprice and similar wires.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I can get a Denon receiver 125-140wpc for good price and don't know if I should go for it. Thanks.
Reasonably and capable amps at those levels generally, which particular JBL speakers are you using?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
What do you mean by connectivity/adjustment levels? Tone controls and RCA wires?
I use a 4-Band EQ with my Yamaha AX596 amp to dial in best volume/tone in my room. Room was 13x15x7 but just moved and room is now 12x12x8. I have Monoprice and similar wires.
Keep in mind eq boosting is a bigger demand from an amp. What sort of boost levels at what bands are you using?
 
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ifsixwasnin9

Audioholic
Keep in mind eq boosting is a bigger demand from an amp. What sort of boost levels at what bands are you using?
JBL L110. Boost 2 lower bands a little and decrease higher bands a little. My tone controls never worked on my amp for some reason so I bought an EQ.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
So tweaks the basic power spec....if you're using eq then a more powerful amp is likely in order....

ps likely isn't the right word, more like possibly instead.
 
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Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Ninja
My vintage JBLs are rated at 75W continuous power (8ohms) and 150W max. Would an amp rated at 140wpc (8ohms) be overkill for these speakers?
No my avr in 2ch mode is more than my speakers can handle and I’ve never cranked it up so loud to break anything… although I may have damaged some surrounds 50 rms …
 
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ifsixwasnin9

Audioholic
No my avr in 2ch mode is more than my speakers can handle and I’ve never cranked it up so loud to break anything… although I may have damaged some surrounds 50 rms …
Nothing damaged but speakers can't handle the AVR?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Nothing damaged but speakers can't handle the AVR?
I think what he's referring to is that you have the whole power supply available for mere 2ch use with the avr. Determined minds can make amps and speakers not handle each other, but....
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
My vintage JBLs are rated at 75W continuous power (8ohms) and 150W max. Would an amp rated at 140wpc (8ohms) be overkill for these speakers?
No, because, as mentioned many times it depends on:

- your distance
- speaker sensitivity
- SPL you need from you listening position

Facts:

1) Speakers that have sensitivity 90 dB/2.83V/m will need only half the amp output of those that have sensitivity 87 dB/2.83V/m, on all else equal bais.

2) Sitting 4 m vs 2m will need double the amp output.

3) If you regularly listen to 81 dB average 100 dB peak, you will need 4 times the amp output of those who listen to 75 dB average 95 dB peak.

Again, that's all based on all else being equal, obviously.

So, even if your amp is rated 500 WPC, it won't be overkill for your speakers if you only need say, 50 WPC based on the above listed facts. Edit: reason - because your amp, no matter how powerful will not be outputting more than 50 WPC anyway. If you actually listen to ref level, that is 85 dB average 105 dB peak, then the 500 WPC amp, over kill or not, may actually kill your speakers but then in that case, even an 100 WPC amp might also kill your speakers.

Why not just use an online calculator, or do your own math if you know how, to figure your amp output need, then you don't have ask such questions on forums that may or may not get you the right answers?

Here's link to one that often get posted on this forum:

Peak SPL Calculator

If you have questions on this or other online calculators just post your questions and I am sure people will be happy to help.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Bellari EQ. Very nice.

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Using an equalizer can cause its own problems if the level controls are raised, rather than using a balance of raising and lowering- the needed amplifier power can be adequate without the EQ, but these are used too often as a way to achieve more output when it's supposed to be used to balance the frequency response.

I would advise against using an equalizer to raise the level- if the level is too high, it can cause distortion.
 
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rajsingh

Enthusiast
Not at all. A clean 140WPC amp is generally safer than an underpowered amp driven into clipping, as long as you use reasonable volume levels. The real danger to those vintage JBLs is distortion and clipping, not having extra amplifier headroom available.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Wouldn't a 75wpc amp be fine for driving these speakers? I use a 100wpc amp and does fine but curious about a higher powered amp.
Power ratings are supposed to be used for determining their survival under specific conditions- matching amplifiers to them is only part of the process for choosing them. Another part is the program material- if the level is constant (or close to constant), the voice coils will become hot much sooner than if the material's level has frequent drops and pauses.

For brief periods of high output level, they should be fine but if you want loud, buy equipment made for that- high sensitivity speakers are needed for that.
 

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