CD Players with Audiophile Sound

[Squishman]

The TV can be set to send a fixed signal via eArc (dts, Dolby or PCM usually), so no matter what the input signal is, it will feed back a signal the AVR can handle. And it should work even for antenna I believe. You are basically using the TV to process the audio signal.

Yeah....what input selection on the avr? See my dilemma?

 

[Squishman]

TV as an input options are co-ax and optical. Maybe once I add eArc that changes.

 

[Squishman]

So I figured out that I wasn't losing my marbles. If I want TV antenna audio, I cannot change jack squat. There is no TV option other than optical or co-ax. Even when you add eArc as a connection. But in my case, the hdmi was already plugged into the eArc port on the AVR. I changed the port on the TV to eArc. Then I determined that there is no way to do it.
I wouldn't mind a second (or third or fourth!) opinion on if the RCA's are fine and dandy for optimal audio from my CD player or get the converter that @m. zillch mentioned above. @TLS Guy doesn't like that idea of introducing a digital converter into your audio signal. What do you guys think?
I just bought another DCC CD (Phoebe Snow - s/t) and wouldn't mind hearing that in the most primo fashion possible when it arrives.

 

[m. zillch]

According to Amazon's description that coax digital <-> optical bi-sexual bi-directional gizmo is bit-perfect and lossless so the digital sound should be identical. There are sometimes limitations on these sorts of things for people using super duper, ultra, "you'll-see-God", hi-re$ formats (~192k or greater) but if it's just for 2ch. CD (44.1k/16b) I doubt there would be any issues audibly. It has over 1300 reviews with a 4.5/5 star average so I'd think it works out for most users and even comes with digital cables.

 

[Squishman]

According to Amazon's description that coax digital <-> optical bi-sexual bi-directional gizmo is bit-perfect and lossless so the digital sound should be identical. There are sometimes limitations on these sorts of things for people using super duper, ultra, "you'll-see-God", hi-re$ formats (~192k or greater) but if it's just for 2ch. CD (44.1k/16b) I doubt there would be any issues audibly. It has over 1300 reviews with a 4.5/5 star average so I'd think it works out for most users and even comes with digital cables.

I just bought it. Got it free with Amazon rewards points. I already have at least one co-ax cable in my box of cables. Doesn't hurt to have an extree. Thx for the tip on this! Nice to hear that my Teac should cut the mustard too.

 

[Squishman]

The eArc port on my avr is of course the OSD port. That's why I did not have to change anything back there.

 

[Eppie]

I do not use the optical out on my TV with my current setup. I use the HDMI eARC connections on both the TV and AVR. When using the AVR as source video the TV input is set to the eARC HDMI input (which I labeled as the AVR connection). This is the connection I always use as I have everything connected to the AVR (including my cable box for TV broadcasts). The same should hold true for your Firestick and CD player if plugged into the AVR.

If I use the TV remote to turn on one of the built-in streaming apps, then the video comes from the TV internally and the AVR automatically knows to pick up the audio from the TV via eARC. eARC is bidirectional for audio. If the AVR is the source, audio flows from your source device (Firestick, CD player, etc) to your AVR for your main speakers, but also flows from the AVR to the TV with the video signal. If your TV speakers are enabled you can play audio over the AVR and TV at the same time but naturally the TV speakers are usually muted in that case.

If the TV is the source (when using built-in apps) then the audio flows in the opposite direction from the TV to the AVR so that the AVR can supply the audio for the main speakers.

I would have assumed that if you are also using the TV's antenna input for over the air broadcasts, that eARC would send audio back to the AVR. The issue might be that you have the optical output enabled on the TV. I would try disabling the optical connection and use eARC for built-in apps and over the air TV. That would free up the optical connection on the AVR for your CD player.

Only possible issue I foresee is that not everything from the TVs goes out over eARC but with digital over the air I would assume it would behave the same as the built-in apps and work over eARC as well.

 

[Eppie]

I don't think you need to change the input on the AVR for over the air TV. When you change the TV from the HDMI input to the over the air TV, the TV tells the AVR to use eARC for audio instead. This communication can require CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) for things to work. I have to have CEC enabled on both the TV and AVR for things to work. Your TV setup may have a different name for CEC (check you manual). For example, Samsung calls CEC "Anynet+". Google should help with that.

CEC can be a PITA sometimes. Not all devices work as expected. CEC for example can allow for power on/off and input switching. So turning on a TV cable box (connected via HDMI) will turn on the AVR, which will switch to the cable box input and turn on the TV. That's the ideal scenario but often does not work. I can power on my cable box, AVR and TV with a single click, but when I power off, the TV always stays on and I have to power the TV off separately.

Short message is, you likely need to have CEC enabled on the TV and AVR for eARC to work properly. Then you can hopefully eliminate the optical connection from the TV to AVR.

 

[Squishman]

I don't think you need to change the input on the AVR for over the air TV.

I do not understand. I would still have to have an input (to select)! There is nothing for TV audio, except the TV input and only optical or co-ax as options. No other options.
I watch Youtube Premium and NewsMax. Really nothing else except the occasional Prime. That is all on Firestick of course and that input is called "Streambox" on my RZ50.
I am going to use that optical to coax converter so that is my solution for my CD player to go digital. Which is great because the TEAC is not a high-end unit so it probably has a run o' the mill dac.

 

[mono-bloc]

really there is nothing wrong with your Teac CD-P650 in it's price range. Put simply it does the job.

But then you wonder off into the HDMI world, in the hope that the sound can be improved, The fact that the Teac does
not have a HDMI connection completely escapes your thought process. HDMI was never designed for Audio, It simply
piggy-backs of the Video signal.

Get away from your junky AVR, and use a dedicated integrated system, for better performance. with zero HDMI connections.
Just ask Mr Quad, [ TLS ] Why his sound system does not use HDMI. The better quality audio gear has no use for HDMI,
Just for the record Quad does not have a model using HDMI. My main system is all Cyrus, It's a 6 unit system, and like Quad
has zero use for HDMI.

 

[m. zillch]

really there is nothing wrong with your Teac CD-P650 in it's price range.

Are you saying you once owned one so you are personally familiar with its sound? Or perhaps read an independent review of it from a well known reviewer? *
Me? I have done neither, but its stated specs suggest it has perfectly good sound as CD players go, at any price, and to the best of my knowledge he hears no noise from his nor stated any other audible complaints.

*and if so please name them, Thanks.

 

[lovinthehd]

As was mentioned, don't bother. They're all audiophile level pretty much, has to be a really bad cd player not to provide great audio via either analog or digital outputs. Yours is likely just fine. Monobloc as usual is focused on involvement of high costs to equal high audio quality, which is largely nonsense of course. Now if your current player lacks in some playback features/ergonomics you'd like to change....

 

[mono-bloc]

Are you saying you once owned one so you are personally familiar with its sound?

No and No

What I'm saying is, it's probably good value for the price paid. It's like many other models / manufacturers, they all seem to rely
on the Phillips tray system..

 

[lovinthehd]

No and No

What I'm saying is, it's probably good value for the price paid. It's like many other models / manufacturers, they all seem to rely
on the Phillips tray system..

And whose lasers?

 

[mono-bloc]

. Monobloc as usual is focused on involvement of high costs to equal high audio quality,

Incorrect I'm simply saying you only get what you pay for.. Regardless of what your purchasing.

 

[Squishman]

But then you wonder off into the HDMI world, in the hope that the sound can be improved, The fact that the Teac does
not have a HDMI connection

Hdmi was never discussed here as a CD player output.

 

[mono-bloc]

And whose lasers?

Probably the Lazer that suits the model or make .

 

[mono-bloc]

Hdmi was never discussed here as a CD player output.

Correct.

 

[lovinthehd]

Probably the Lazer that suits the model or make .

I seem to remember Sony supplied like 70 % of the market at one point, but think that was a few years back. Don't know now but it often has nothing to do with the brand of the player.

 

[lovinthehd]

Incorrect I'm simply saying you only get what you pay for.. Regardless of what your purchasing.

Not according to many of your other posts....