Do they still sell new mono speakers or do you have to buy vintage?

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manichalo

Audiophyte
I'd like to set up a mono speaker set up for my tv if it is possible.
 
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manichalo

Audiophyte
I want speakers that are designed to excel at mono, not just have the feature. I prefer the sound of mono to stereo. I was looking at vintage mono speakers and they cost a fortune so I am just worried if they even make speakers that are tuned for it anymore.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Mono isn't a "feature", nor is a speaker "tuned" for mono. A good speaker is a good speaker, period. Get one good speaker and use it in a mono configuration.
 
zhimbo

zhimbo

Audioholic General
What j said. "Stereo" has nothing to do with the speakers; it means that two identical speakers are being fed two different signals (corresponding to left and right). If you feed a mono signal to both "stereo" speakers, it's still mono.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
Yeah, I want a mono speaker too. And one with one speaker.

Dude, run, these guys convinced me to buy 7 speakers and then 2 more that went boom only, then they put this giant radio in and damn radio don't work, then on top of that said i had to get all these boxes with lights to plug these speakers into. Got a projector too but no place to put film?
 
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Ricardojoa

Audioholic
Just get a pair of speaker and put them close together. That should do the trick.
 
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MidnightSensi2

Audioholic Chief
That's how it starts... they tell you to get two and put them close to each other... Pretty soon you got a room full of radios and speakers... my girlfriend left me because of it... was heartbroken.
 
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Ricardojoa

Audioholic
i wouldnt believe if my girl left me because i have too much gears and speakers. But if you did, im very sorry about that.
 
gmichael

gmichael

Audioholic Spartan
Most any speaker will do the trick. Do you have a size and budget in mind?
 
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Ricardojoa

Audioholic
They will cause cancellations in each other (Comb filtering and the like).

I havent tried that. But why would there be cancelation? I remember reading a post from Dennis Murphy advising charmeci to put his speaker close together to hear wether they sound the same. If there is cancelation then they wont sound the same.

I have heard speakers in car (6"x9") close together that were intalled on the rear panel(hatchacks) and never heard anyone complaining about cancelation.
As far as comb filtering, i could see it happen as you move off axis, that depends how bad it gets. I have never had any problem with my mtm center which should also exhibit com filt.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
In a car you have massive amounts of cabin gain and it is pretty much physically impossible to sit far enough off axis. With MTMs I expect it mainly happens farther off axis than the average person sits as well.
 
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Ricardojoa

Audioholic
My example of the car is that there is no particular cancelation.
The only cancelation i can think of having two speakers together is that they are wired out of phase or that they are fire to the side with their backs against each other.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I want speakers that are designed to excel at mono, not just have the feature. I prefer the sound of mono to stereo. I was looking at vintage mono speakers and they cost a fortune so I am just worried if they even make speakers that are tuned for it anymore.
There is no such thing as a speaker designed for mono.

You need to understand a bit of history. In the pre stereo era there was one channel only.

This was reproduced by a single speaker.

With the advent of stereo there were basically two distinct microphone techniques, intensity (coincident) and phase difference (spaced) techniques. Over the years the phase difference spaced technique has become by far the commonest, driven by the pop culture.

Either way, a stereo recording is not equivalent to a mono recording played over a single or even two speakers for that matter. This is especially true for phase difference recordings.

Back in the late 50s and sixties, there was dual inventory, partly for this reason, and partly because there were a lot of users who had mono cartridges that could not play stereo recordings.

However the mono recordings were made from different microphones and a different mix, including the early Beetles recordings.

After stereo reproducers became common place mono discs were dropped.

Now there is a version of intensity stereo called M-S matrix, where both mono and stereo reproduction are optimal. However this technique is seldom used and few engineers understand it, or how to go about it. However when I made outside radio broadcasts, I almost always used this technique, as it is a very good technique and listeners who had single speaker radios, got a perfect mono rendition.

So your issue that speakers are not tuned for mono is not relevant. The problem is that most recordings are miked and mixed for stereo, and now more than two channels often times now.

When I play historic mono recordings I just play them form my center speaker. They do sound better that way, than reproduced over two spaced speakers.

And by the way if you place two speakers side by side, there will be cancellations and reinforcements that will be dependent on wavelength and speaker spacing. This is the essence of comb filtering.

So whether you like to hear it or not, the vast majority of recordings made over the last half century or more, will sound a lot better played back as stereo and playing them mono is suboptimal.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Yeah, I want a mono speaker too. And one with one speaker.

Dude, run, these guys convinced me to buy 7 speakers and then 2 more that went boom only, then they put this giant radio in and damn radio don't work, then on top of that said i had to get all these boxes with lights to plug these speakers into. Got a projector too but no place to put film?
Many a true word spoken in jest. I'm certain most rooms would be better off with 2.1 systems. However you can't even by a 2.1 receiver or pre/pro that is any good.

I have three systems and two of the three are two channel. Dialog is fine and clear and stays centered in all listening positions.
 
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Ricardojoa

Audioholic
I just did a quick experiment using a pair of ascend sierra. i put them side by side and sounded fine. Defenetly does not sound like a mono speaker or a single source. I guess having two speakers side by side wont do the trick and you will to keep searching.
 
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