For Those Who Didnt Catch It

gonk

gonk

Full Audioholic
Wow - that's awesome. Sucks for Philips, but still very very funny.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Reminds me of my wife. It took her a while to learn my Logitech Harmony lol. But she can point it almost anywhere and it comes on.:D
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Just watched the entire episode, not sure what you mean.:confused:
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
Oh ok, I just finished watching the full episode.:D

Still not getting why this is such poor product placement.
Dad: Why would you do that to a brand new, very expensive remote?

Mom: Because I lost my temper and it didn’t work; therefore, it’s useless.
Im sure CEpro wanted to convey the need for custom installers.
 
gonk

gonk

Full Audioholic
It was realistic in one regard: when setting up a universal remote for use by family members, you have to make sure that the programming is logical to other people (not just yourself). It took us a while to get the DVR controls on our MX-900 tweaked so my wife was satisfied with them. When done right, though, it can be invaluable - my wife is a firm believer in good universal remotes, and tells people regularly that a universal remote was the best upgrade we ever made. (Surround sound, HDTV, and Blu-ray all have to fall into line behind the remote somewhere.) Going to an RF remote was a particularly great move - especially with multi-step macros that require you to aim the remote for several seconds when using IR.

It was realistic in another regard: your wife will hate the remote if you don't get that programming worked out, and if it's too unintuitive then it may just end with the remote's destruction.

Why is it bad for Pronto? I don't think any manufacturer wants to see their product destroyed on national TV because a character couldn't use it to perform basic tasks. Can you see Harmony using the image of a smashed Pronto to make a case for their web-based "do the thinking for you" programming? I sure can. :)
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
My wife and I love that show, (me mostly for Sofia Vergara ;) ). She cracked up at that part, cuz she feels the same way with our system.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
Its a good example of a poor setup. A properly set URC or RTI remote is a no brainer for anyone to use (without breaking the bank).
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
Wapdrv has the same model.....he set his up perfectly and loaded custom images so even Helen Keller could operate the thing.

Usually you will find the people that cannot operate these things are the same people that cannot assemble anything or walk through simple instructions because their lack of patience is so severe.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
The problem is that they set that remote up for IR transmitting and not RF.
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
Ahh gotcha.....I didn't watch the youtube video as I'm at work and do not have my earbuds.

Thanks Highfigh
 
MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
As long as you avoid macros, universal remotes can be handy.

It's the macros that make them cumbersome. Like 'Watch TV' ... if the TV is already on and it is pressed, then the TV shuts off and the receiver turns on. RS232 has solved this to some degree, the main lagging being manufacturers using it and how to interface with the remote.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
As long as you avoid macros, universal remotes can be handy.

It's the macros that make them cumbersome. Like 'Watch TV' ... if the TV is already on and it is pressed, then the TV shuts off and the receiver turns on. RS232 has solved this to some degree, the main lagging being manufacturers using it and how to interface with the remote.
Only if there isnt discrete codes to use (or work around). The RF solutions along with zigbee, and ip make long macros a piece of cake. I have macros for all of my main functions, as well as a few fun tweaks.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
As long as you avoid macros, universal remotes can be handy.

It's the macros that make them cumbersome. Like 'Watch TV' ... if the TV is already on and it is pressed, then the TV shuts off and the receiver turns on. RS232 has solved this to some degree, the main lagging being manufacturers using it and how to interface with the remote.
QFT

I cannot agree more. In some ways, the flexibility of use is even greater.

I suppose we should define what a macro really is, because even if I don't use a "macro-function", I still operate commands from a macro "page", so to speak.

This is how I programmed my own, and my brother's. I've programmed, and re-programmed a Harmony for a brain scientist (after he paid a "pro" a nice healthy sum), and he still can't use the darned thing. I imagine part of the problem is that the components are rather spread out in the vertical sense. I even wrote out a troubleshooting guide for him. Life is easier without it for him at this point.

I told him to buy a URC for a very small fraction of what he paid for the Harmony. And, while keeping hundreds of dollars in the pocket, he would also get RF. :rolleyes:

Only if there isnt discrete codes to use (or work around). The RF solutions along with zigbee, and ip make long macros a piece of cake. I have macros for all of my main functions, as well as a few fun tweaks.
Hmm, point taken. But, if just one single component does not have discrete on/off, and happens to fall out of sync, well, in my experiences, even brain scientists have trouble. :eek:
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
Point taken, but most ci products do (think the lord) with the exception of one major company.
 
droht

droht

Full Audioholic
Thanks for the link; that is a funny show and I almost never see it.

I love the argument over which kid is the dumbest. Classic.
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
As long as you avoid macros, universal remotes can be handy.

It's the macros that make them cumbersome. Like 'Watch TV' ... if the TV is already on and it is pressed, then the TV shuts off and the receiver turns on. RS232 has solved this to some degree, the main lagging being manufacturers using it and how to interface with the remote.
This is only an issue with devices that don't have discrete codes in my experience. IE if the device does not have "toggling" buttons and each key has 1 function.

Thats the issue with some of the receivers and other equipment today. They have so much fluff on them that they have to make these remotes with shift keys and all sorts of other nonsense.....
 
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