Recommendation for Av receiver

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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
I could get my budget to $1200 but from what I saw it's closer to $1800 unless you know of a sale or somthing because I can't swing $1800 for receiver at the moment.
You must have missed post #31. 6thAVE is an authorized Yamaha dealer. In most cases, they will match pricegrabber. Click the links below to see.
 
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Ares

Ares

Audioholic Samurai
You know I did miss it one more thing I went to their website could not find authorized internet dealers.
 
Ares

Ares

Audioholic Samurai
Man I miss that to. (note to self no more drinking while on the web) thanks for making this harder then it is,I guess I'll add this one to the list.
 
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Audioholic Samurai
It seems that after much research I am leaning towards Pioneer I would like to hear from owners of Pioneer receivers about Pro & Cons if possible and thank you.
 
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smithquake

Audiophyte
It seems that after much research I am leaning towards Pioneer I would like to hear from owners of Pioneer receivers about Pro & Cons if possible and thank you.
I'm looking hard at the VSX-21 as well. Has all I need + great iPod function. Gotta hate their published specs though...written mostly for UL vs audiophile. I'm a bit concerned about Pio's caveates about low impedance speakers since I am running 4 ohm mains...but can't imagine an amp that certs THX can't push into 4 ohms.

A note on Marantz....they used to be great. They still have some of the best audio repro out there, but IMHO the quality has gone way down. My current AVR is a Marantz SR7200. 3 months after the 3 yr warranty ran out, the video gen chip and microcontroller both died. $250 later it was fixed. Marantz said sorry, warranty out (even though only out by 3 months). 1 month later the DTS chip died. Was gonna take another $250 to fix that. Needless to say, I've been without DTS ever since. Now it's time to upgrade to a machine with HDMI and I'm not even looking at Marantz.
 
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Audioholic Samurai
Well as far as I know Pioneer says no lower than 6 ohms.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
Do you mean a con in general or for smithquake?
Tried to Google smithquake with no reward.:confused:

If you plan on using the receiver as the systems balls, I would be certain to purchase one with some.

Ohhh, I see. Smithquake is a member.:rolleyes:

No, my reply was to you.
It seems that after much research I am leaning towards Pioneer I would like to hear from owners of Pioneer receivers about Pro & Cons if possible and thank you.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
What is it that you dislike about the Pioneer?
I have not studied the unit. You asked for pros and cons from owners, and then you replied to another member with your own con. Printed specs that inform not to run speakers below 6ohm tells me the amp section is not up to snuff. In their defense, most receivers around $800MSRP aren't.
 
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Audioholic Samurai
My reply was not meant as a con to that member,but simply to inform him that his speakers would not work with that unit. I reread what I wrote and I could see how it looks like a con but that was not my intention just to inform.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
My reply was not meant as a con to that member,but simply to inform him that his speakers would not work with that unit. I reread what I wrote and I could see how it looks like a con but that was not my intention just to inform.
It's a con. Not to him. It's a con for the unit. Period.

His speakers will work. It's just a fact that the receivers amp may shut down under pressure, or die.
 
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Ares

Audioholic Samurai
It's a con. Not to him. It's a con for the unit. Period.
This is why I asked why is that a con,some people will be using 8 ohm speakers and some 6 ohm and of course those with 4 ohm should look towards a different receiver all together. Or are you of the opinion that a receiver should be able to handle all three.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
This is why I asked why is that a con,some people will be using 8 ohm speakers and some 6 ohm and of course those with 4 ohm should look towards a different receiver all together. Or are you of the opinion that a receiver should be able to handle all three.
I run 4ohm speakers. Five of them. I am of the opinion that if an amp can't handle a 4ohm load, it don't belong in any home. If a product has printed it can't handle a four ohm load, the manufacturer has admitted the unit is underpowered.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
If you were shopping for a sports car, and the manufacturer told you not to rev the engine, would you buy it?
 
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Ares

Audioholic Samurai
If I was told not to rev the engine is one thing, then yeah I won't buy it but if I was told don't drive at a 140mph for 2 hours straight thats not a deal breaker. Now bear with me I don't claim to know everything about HT this why I ask questions for my understanding now you said if a receiver can't run a 4ohm load it is underpowered please explain.
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
It is a fact that a 8ohm speaker varies. It may dip below 4ohm during normal use. 6ohm and 4ohm speakers do this as well. However, a well designed 4 or 6ohm speaker may in fact fluctuate less than a poorly designed 8ohm speaker.

None the less, an amp that responds well to low impedance is a clear sign of a well designed unit.

If I was told not to rev the engine is one thing, then yeah I won't buy it but if I was told don't drive at a 140mph for 2 hours straight thats not a deal breaker.
BTW, my movies or concerts usually run around 2 hours.
 
Ares

Ares

Audioholic Samurai
Okay I think understand what you are saying, that if a receiver can handle a 4 ohm load that it will be able to handle any speaker without so much as breaking a sweat.
 

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