Anyone listen to anything like this?

[Haaspac]

Long time reader, first time poster here.

Does anyone that visits this site expand their musical listening past the usual "Mom and Dad" music? i.e. Rod Stewart, Genesis, Nora Jones, Josh Groban etc. etc. etc. stuff like that.

I ask this because it seems thats all that people listen to when listening to, or testing speakers. I've even seen some people on here refer to Metallica as "heavy metal" which couldn't be more wrong.

Out of curiosity, who here listens to real metal when blasting their systems? I am a personal fan of the death/black/metalcore scene and I was wondering how they could tell if certain speakers are good for this kind of music, since every speaker system reviewed on this site is tested with poppy and or easy listening-ish music.

If anyone would like to know what black/death/metalcore actually sounds like instead of dismissing it as "marylin manson" (which it absolutely is not) I would be happy to provide some links.

I just would like to see some diversity in musical tastes, thats all.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

I find taxonomic excercises like inventing labels for every sugenre and sub-subgenre to be boring and pointless. It is usually incorrect as well, because no sooner do you put a band in one of those tiny pigeonholes than they do something different.
I outgrew metal years ago, though I occasionally still listen to Blue Oyster Cult, Iron Maiden, or Queensryche for nostalgia's sake.
My tastes are immensely eclectic. I have thousands of CDs, ranging from Abba to Zutons and covering styles as divergent as Tinariwen and Tangerine Dream.
(Oh, and if you don't call Metallica heavy metal, then what do you call them?)

 

[Haaspac]

Well Metallica would be more of a Hard Rock, nowadays at least. Older stuff, yea could be heavy metal, but they just sold out and are not worth listening to anymore. Pantera is a good example of a "heavy Metal" band.

As for the stuff I listen to (examples):
Black Metal: Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal: Job for a Cowboy
Metalcore: Bring me the Horizon

To the trained ear they all sound very different, hence the sub-genre catagorization. Although yea, there are too many subgenres. I wish someone would through some of that in their speakers and let me know how it sounds on a good system.

 

[Sheep]

I listen to Screamo and metalcore.

List off the bands you'd like me to hear.

SheepStar

 

[Sheep]

Well Metallica would be more of a Hard Rock, nowadays at least. Older stuff, yea could be heavy metal, but they just sold out and are not worth listening to anymore. Pantera is a good example of a "heavy Metal" band.

As for the stuff I listen to (examples):
Black Metal: Dimmu Borgir
Death Metal: Job for a Cowboy
Metalcore: Bring me the Horizon

To the trained ear they all sound very different, hence the sub-genre catagorization. Although yea, there are too many subgenres. I wish someone would through some of that in their speakers and let me know how it sounds on a good system.

I listened to a couple of songs from each of those bands.

Those bands are part of the hardcore/metalcore I dislike. They lake any real musical purpose. It's just the nastiest scream the can make with the most drum beats. Metal doesn't need to he hard screaming, thrashing guitars 24/7.

Look into these guys:

Poison The Well
The Blood Brothers
Atreyu (their older stuff is better Album: Suicide Notes and Butterfly Kisses)
Every Time I Die
Fear Before The March Of Flames
The Fall Of Troy
Norma Jean

SheepStar

 

[Haaspac]

I know every one of those bands, I like a wide range of metal. ETID being my favorite out of the ones you listed. But you also listed bands that mostly scream and have thrashing guitars. I like Dimmu Borgir because they are very different than most metal bands, they have a keyboardist for one, and they use a full orchestra for most of their songs while blending in their metal seamlessly. Granted they are satanistic and most mothers/wives across America will despise their music, but so what.
Look up Progenies of the Great Apocalypse by Dimmu Borgir on youtube and you will see what I'm talking about.

You cant tell me that bands music doesn't match perfectly with the orchestra. They also don't always have harsh vocals, the bass player sings with clean vocals in almost all of their songs, well since he became a member.

Check out August Burns Red. Unbelievable musical talent from such young kids. I just like really brutal chaotic music, I guess growing up and attending Catholic school most of your life will drive you to listen to the stuff I like.

 

[obscbyclouds]

I'm not sure there's an answer to your question. An accurate loudspeaker is still going to be accurate regardless of if you're listening to Death Metal or Frank Sinatra. All that really matters is which sounds the best to you. Take your CD's to a HT store and audition the speakers yourself with your music.

Good Luck.

 

[Sheep]

I'm going to marry the new ETID CD, it's freaking brilliant.

I don't know what it is about the bands you listed, I just can't find the flow. Personally, I think all songs have flow, some people just can't find it. That's why so many idiots like rap, the flow is so simple. Once you progress into more complex music, the flow is harder to find, and itself more complex. Some like it, some don't. Personally, I don't like the music you listed. I'm not religious, TRUST ME, but that whole Satan music just rings as lame. It becomes more then just music, and if you believe in Satan, in a way, you're religious.

I also like a break from the heavy stuff too, bands like Thrice, The Mars Volta, Alexisonfire (which isn't soft, but more balanced), Atreyu (not the newest album, the one before it). And when I get sick of anything hard, I hit up some trance like Pendulum, or Massive Attack.

Good talking, glad to see someone else on this board that likes harder music. Everyone else is "OMG, procupine tree is so hardcore" But seriously, don't leave me.

SheepStar

 

[mouettus]

I don't listen to scramo or anything that harsh but I do listen to metal and some pretty hardcore bands out there and I can tell you that The Energy C-series line and the RC-series line (if you have some money like me ) are honestly the only speakers I found that didn't sound harsh, were very easy listening even at loud-but-still-sane levels.

Pair 'em with some nice, powerful NAD 2-ch power and you're in heaven my man.

 

[Sheep]

The problem isn't the speakers in most cases, it's the recordings. These bands don't have much money, so they CD's the produce sound awful. You may want to find some speakers that roll off the high end as well as dip in the 1-4Khz range. That is my preference for listening to this music.

SheepStar

 

[Haaspac]

I don't listen to scramo or anything that harsh but I do listen to metal and some pretty hardcore bands out there and I can tell you that The Energy C-series line and the RC-series line (if you have some money like me ) are honestly the only speakers I found that didn't sound harsh, were very easy listening even at loud-but-still-sane levels.

Pair 'em with some nice, powerful NAD 2-ch power and you're in heaven my man.

My brother and I were actually looking at the RBH TK-series, not that expensive and still are a high quality product. Give me some links to the speakers you were talking about. When I move back home to the states I'll be sitting on a lot of extra money. I'm in Europe on business not military for those of you wondering.

When I lived in college in a small apartment my room was about as big as a prison cell. My dad gave me his speakers he bought a LONG time ago, well for me mid 90's is a long time ago. Anyway, it was a 3 2cube+sub bose system(i know i know) with 2 bookshelf sony speakers for the rear(i know again). Anyway with those speakers even for how old they were, combined with how small my room was, it put out some serious loud sound with my metal. I was satisfied for the time being, but when I come home, I'm looking for some serious sound.

 

[Davemcc]

While metal hasn't really been my thing, I remember another discussion along these lines a while ago. You might find some interesting comments here.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29516

 

[3db]

So where does one peg the band Tool?

I'm going to marry the new ETID CD, it's freaking brilliant.

I don't know what it is about the bands you listed, I just can't find the flow. Personally, I think all songs have flow, some people just can't find it. That's why so many idiots like rap, the flow is so simple. Once you progress into more complex music, the flow is harder to find, and itself more complex. Some like it, some don't. Personally, I don't like the music you listed. I'm not religious, TRUST ME, but that whole Satan music just rings as lame. It becomes more then just music, and if you believe in Satan, in a way, you're religious.

I also like a break from the heavy stuff too, bands like Thrice, The Mars Volta, Alexisonfire (which isn't soft, but more balanced), Atreyu (not the newest album, the one before it). And when I get sick of anything hard, I hit up some trance like Pendulum, or Massive Attack.

Good talking, glad to see someone else on this board that likes harder music. Everyone else is "OMG, procupine tree is so hardcore" But seriously, don't leave me.

SheepStar

I really enjoy their stuff and alot of copy cat bands arose from them.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Tool remind me a lot of King Crimson, who have typically been caregorized as progressive rock (though they sound nothing like Yes or ELP.)

 

[Sheep]

I really enjoy their stuff and alot of copy cat bands arose from them.

Tool isn't in any of those categories. You may THINK they're copied, but if you knew what the other songs meant, you'd realize they're not. Only a crappy band copies.

SheepStar

 

[3db]

Tool isn't in any of those categories. You may THINK they're copied, but if you knew what the other songs meant, you'd realize they're not. Only a crappy band copies.

SheepStar

Not the songs but the style.. like "I Mother Earth" and the band with slugs over a cartoon character of a woman. I always have troubel remember their name.

 

[Sheep]

Not the songs but the style.. like "I Mother Earth" and the band with slugs over a cartoon character of a woman. I always have troubel remember their name.

I don't know. None of the bands I listen to sound like tool. I have 10,000 days too.

SheepStar

 

[mouettus]

My brother and I were actually looking at the RBH TK-series, not that expensive and still are a high quality product. Give me some links to the speakers you were talking about. When I move back home to the states I'll be sitting on a lot of extra money. I'm in Europe on business not military for those of you wondering.

Have a look at those: (approx. 800$ a pair)
C-series
And those: (approx. 2500$ a pair)
RC-series (Reference Conoisseur)

Listening to some intense metal music at pretty high SPL is surprisingly not fatiguing to the ear. Both are great speakers but the RCs have a better bass extension as well as improved imaging

 

[Thaedium]

Watch the DVD Metal. Great documentary on Rock and the various genres like Metal, and Death Metal. Among a butt-load of others.

Anyways, I'm definently a fan of hardcore styles of metal. Try some Children of Bodom, or Cannibal Corpse

For the most part, I'd have to agree with Sheep. Accurate speakers are just that, and if your metal CD's sound like garbage compared to your Led Zeppelin CD's then its just a poor quality source in the first place. I especially find MP3 versions of more intense metal to be pretty crappy. In contrast, I can throw in some Rush and I've got crystal clear sound that images very well.

On the other hand, knocking Rap for simplistic beats is kind of amusing since you like trance and house type music - which is also extremely simplistic. Both forms of music I enjoy btw. I don't think the average idiot likes rap because its simple, but because everyone just loves bass, which rap and trance alike play it well.

 

[Sheep]

On the other hand, knocking Rap for simplistic beats is kind of amusing since you like trance and house type music - which is also extremely simplistic. Both forms of music I enjoy btw. I don't think the average idiot likes rap because its simple, but because everyone just loves bass, which rap and trance alike play it well.

When was the last time you heard a trance song that was based on a pair of Sneakers? At least they make their own music. Rappers talk along with a beat, and make up words so they can continue a rhyme. Trance songs also undergo many tempo changes. Rappers can't handle multiple beats, it's off their fosheezy.

SheepStar