8 track tape players - have you seen what the market is - Why ?

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timetohunt

Audioholic
I just hooked my old 'Realistic' 8 track to my system. Nostsalgic and fun, thats about it, I still have a small and interesting 8 track collection. Then, out of curiousity, I checked out 8 track players on Ebay. $1.00 yard sale 8 track players, yes thats one dollar), are going for 30 bucks and up on Ebay. I've seen some asking $100, $200 and, yes $300 for 8 track players. What happened? There is not really a resurgence in 8 track, is it? I think this is one example of a strange mini-market that ebay has created. It's wild. What do you all think? Is there really any of these players worth that kind of dough?
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
'Nostalgic and fun' says it all. I can't see any of them ever being worth a couple hundred bucks but if I had a few 8 tracks I wouldn't mind paying $20 or so for a player just to try it out.
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
Chances are your old 8-track tapes either wouldn't play anymore or they would break at the splice.

Besides, it's tough enough just to get a matchbook to stuff under the corner just to keep it on track :p
 
Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
I had an 8 track recorder some 25 years ago. Can't even remember what brand any more. Probably a Craig.
I don't exactly miss days of fade out - click - fade in, right in the middle of some of the songs.
Some technology isn't nostalgic, it better of dead.:)
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
Besides, it's tough enough just to get a matchbook to stuff under the corner just to keep it on track :p
That statement brought a smile to my face,its been so long for me with 8 track that i forgot about the match book trick:D

Remember how the music would fade out then CLICKthe channel changed & the music came back up to listening level.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
:eek: what the hell is an 8-track ?
Young one, it is a bulky cassette tape with 8 tracks on it; about twice as thick and at least twice as long width wise as a cassette you most likely know and is still around to some extent. Since I didn't have one, not sure if they were 8 mono track or what. It also may have been looped somehow. This goes way back:D
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
:eek: what the hell is an 8-track ?
An 8 track was unlike a cassett tape or a reel to reel tape,im no expert but i was heavily into 8 tracks when they were a new medium so i'll try to explain what made them different from other tapes.

The tape inside a cassett tape (and reel tape) contain a single program of music on a given length of tape meaning that from the start of the tape there is only one song then another song begins at the end of the first song,and so on & so on until the end of the tape.

With 8 track tape the tape inside contains 4 programs of music running side by side on the tape at the same time & all 4 programs of music were active at the same time.

The material on a cassett tape would look like a straight line,kinda like this.
Side A____________________________________________________.
Side B____________________________________________________.

The material on a 8 track would look like 4 lines side by side,kinda like this.
__________________________________________________________.
__________________________________________________________.
__________________________________________________________.
__________________________________________________________.

A cassett tape player works with rollers that turn the tape & move the tape across the tape head which is in a fixed non moving position,the straight line i used for a demo above is rolled along the head,in order to hear a different song the tape needs to be forwarded or taken out of the player & flipped to the other side like a record.

A 8 track player works by grabbing hold of the tape itself with pinch rollers & dragging it across the tape head,the tape head in an 8 track player is not stationary,the tape head moves up & down to make contact with 1 of the 4 lines of information at a time,to hear a different song you could select a different channel on the player & the head would move up or down to a different line of information but the tape remained stationary.

The tape used in 8 tracks was different from the tape used for cassett & reel tape,there was some kind of chemical lubricant used on the back side of 8 track tape where on cassett there is none.

Cassett tape has a start & an end,if you took the tape out of a cassett & stretched it out the tape would be in a straight line.

An 8 track tape was run on a continuous cycle where there was no start or end to the tape,if you took the tape out of an 8 track you would see a splice in the tape connecting both ends together to form a circle.

The whole method of 8 track was flawed right from the start,the way the pinch rollers drug the tape over the tape head caused the tape to stretch & snap,the technology inside the 8 track players was also flawed,due to having a moving head after repeated use the players head movement would stick or not move properly,when this happened one of two things would happen,one being that no sound would come from the tape or that 2 lines in the tape would be played at the same time meaning that you could hear two songs being played at the same time.

BTW,the match book trick that majorlooser described above was used to correct problems caused by the head not moving properly.

I know its a long post but im home nursing a back injury:mad: & i cant sleep or even lay down unless i dope myself up with the pain killers the doc gave me so i figured why not give a decent explaination for the younger guys.:D
 
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timetohunt

Audioholic
A little 8-track story. I had this solo recording from Steve Howe (Yes guitarist). And just up until 2 years ago, that recording, like many, finally made its way onto CD. So, for years, if I wanted to hear that recording, I had to stuff in the ole 8-track. What a joy.

I used to splice those things all of time went they got eaten (which they eventually do or break). I'm out of practice now.

But strangely, I think I'm going to get a 'new' 8 track player, that has those needle graghs. Needle graphs ? Probubly not the right term. Its late.
 
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timetohunt

Audioholic
[QUOTE
I know its a long post but im home nursing a back injury:mad: & i cant sleep or even lay down unless i dope myself up with the pain killers the doc gave me so i figured why not give a decent explaination for the younger guys.:D[/QUOTE]

Turn the volume up and take another pill. thats what i do.
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
A little 8-track story. I had this solo recording from Steve Howe (Yes guitarist). And just up until 2 years ago, that recording, like many, finally made its way onto CD. So, for years, if I wanted to hear that recording, I had to stuff in the ole 8-track. What a joy.

I used to splice those things all of time went they got eaten (which they eventually do or break). I'm out of practice now.

But strangely, I think I'm going to get a 'new' 8 track player, that has those needle graghs. Needle graphs ? Probubly not the right term. Its late.

I know the feeling about unreleased materail on cd,ive been waiting for years for an album by Canned Heat called "The canned heat cookbook" to be re released,another reason i keep a turn table in storage.

The needle graphs were actually recording level meters,the only two manufacturers that i know of that used them was Pioneer (centrex) and Realistic & they were always on player/recorders.
 
Geno

Geno

Senior Audioholic
Good Riddance to tape!

I had an Akai 3-format deck back in the '70s (Reel-to-Reel, 8-track, cassette)
It made, for the time, excellent recordings. BTW, there were mono as well as stereo 8-tracks. The stereo tapes contained 4 tracks of 2-channel material. I really don't miss tape technology. It was cool in its day, but so were polyester leisure suits:cool:
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
It was cool in its day, but so were polyester leisure suits:cool:
Oh boy,the memories:mad: How's about platform shoe's,my best pair of platforms were purple suede :eek: i swear they musta weighed 5 lbs each but they were a perfect match with elephant bell hip huggers & tie dyed shirts;)

I still cant figure out what happened to all the hair i used to have,it used to reach my belt line now the only hair i have is in my ears:eek:
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Ah, 8-Track. When I was a kid my brother and I had a bitc&in' collection...KISS, Queen, The Beatles, John Denver, & The Beach Boys! Yeah, you needed to shim them to get 'em to play, and no matter what you did eventually the player would eat one.

My earliest 8-Track memory was of listening to music in my Dad's El Camino.:)
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I thibk it'as people with too much money and not enough common sense.

They're trying to relive their glory daze. Virtually every 8 track I had either would itself up too tight that it wouldn't play of wound up beiing eaten by the car player itself. Plus, nothing like having songs break in the middle to change tracks, unbelieveable wow and flutter, and constant azimuth problems.

When that was all they had, like the late 60's and early 70's, there was no choice but I was quick to jump on the cassette bandwagon.
 
hemiram

hemiram

Full Audioholic
The WOW the 8 tracks always had drove me nuts! One of my best friends had two recorders in his basement, a Craig and I think maybe a Pioneer one, so he could make 2 copies of an LP at once, or copy an 8 track cartridge. He had a car deck in his bedroom, mounted under his desk, connected to my old Harmon-Kardon 330A receiver. Even new, 8-track cartridges sounded horrible. He had a ton of them in a huge wall rack he built that he built that held over 300 cartridges.
 
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owasse

Audioholic Intern
This thread really takes me back in time! I had an 8 track in my '68 Camaro. I can still hear the sounds of the Grass Roots and remember the fade out and fade back in on the song "The River is Wide." Thanks for the memory!:D
 
highfihoney

highfihoney

Audioholic Samurai
And if you wanted the best in car audio 8 track you bought the Pioneer super tuner that mounted under the dash with the cool lookin round tuner section:D

Or of you were broke as a joke you just bought the Sparkomatic FM converter & hooked it into the factory AM radio.:eek:
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
This thread really takes me back in time! I had an 8 track in my '68 Camaro. I can still hear the sounds of the Grass Roots and remember the fade out and fade back in on the song "The River is Wide." Thanks for the memory!:D
Talk about memory lane. :rolleyes:

You also had to have one of those "special aligator clips" with the feathers hanging from the rear view mirror in that Camaro :p
 
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