Ukraine – Russia … not more of the last thread

[Trell]

10%, hell, use the whole damn thing !

The other 90% is for military aid but the 10% for humanitarian aid was to get a deal at all. A win in any case.

 

[highfigh]

He can eat all the ice cream he wants as long as he sends more weapons, ammunition while deciding what other types of weapons to authorize.

Do you even watch videos of Biden speaking?

Search for Biden gaffes and you'll see an almost endless string of videos.

Sure, it's all free and he makes those decisions on his own, right?

 

[Trell]

Do you even watch videos of Biden speaking?

Search for Biden gaffes and you'll see an almost endless string of videos.

Sure, it's all free and he makes those decisions on his own, right?

You do know that the election is over and President Biden conceded? Right?

 

[Mr._Clark]

FWIW, there has been speculation that the recent Russian ballistic missile attack was, at least in part, a response to the Aegis Ashore system in Poland that recently became operational.

>>>RAMSTEIN, Germany – NATO has formally taken control of the Aegis Ashore Missile Defence System (AAMDS) in Redzikowo, Poland, marking a pivotal step in bolstering the Alliance's missile defence capabilities. . . .

The Redzikowo site joins its counterpart in Romania as a critical component of NATO’s larger ballistic missile defence architecture. This system is specifically designed to counter the growing threat of ballistic missiles, enhancing protection for NATO’s European populations, territories, and forces.<<<

https://ac.nato.int/archive/2024/nato-assumes-command-of-aegis-ashore-site-in-poland

Russia is clearly not happy about it.

>>>MOSCOW/WARSAW, Nov 21 (Reuters) - Russia said on Thursday that a new U.S. ballistic missile defence base in northern Poland will lead to an increase in the overall level of nuclear danger, but Warsaw said "threats" from Moscow only strengthened the argument for NATO defences.
The air defence base, situated in the town of Redzikowo near the Baltic coast, part of a broader NATO missile shield, was opened on Nov. 13.<<<

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www.reuters.com

I wish Putin would drop dead from natural or unnatural causes.

 

[highfigh]

FWIW, there has been speculation that the recent Russian ballistic missile attack was, at least in part, a response to the Aegis Ashore system in Poland that recently became operational.

>>>RAMSTEIN, Germany – NATO has formally taken control of the Aegis Ashore Missile Defence System (AAMDS) in Redzikowo, Poland, marking a pivotal step in bolstering the Alliance's missile defence capabilities. . . .

The Redzikowo site joins its counterpart in Romania as a critical component of NATO’s larger ballistic missile defence architecture. This system is specifically designed to counter the growing threat of ballistic missiles, enhancing protection for NATO’s European populations, territories, and forces.<<<

https://ac.nato.int/archive/2024/nato-assumes-command-of-aegis-ashore-site-in-poland

Russia is clearly not happy about it.

>>>MOSCOW/WARSAW, Nov 21 (Reuters) - Russia said on Thursday that a new U.S. ballistic missile defence base in northern Poland will lead to an increase in the overall level of nuclear danger, but Warsaw said "threats" from Moscow only strengthened the argument for NATO defences.
The air defence base, situated in the town of Redzikowo near the Baltic coast, part of a broader NATO missile shield, was opened on Nov. 13.<<<

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I wish Putin would drop dead from natural or unnatural causes.

I would like to see the Russian population finish him, but I have watched videos of Russians who were asked for their opinions on the War and the young ones aren't usually in favor, with some saying that the old Babushkas think everything is fine.

 

[Eppie]

I would like to see the Russian population finish him, but I have watched videos of Russians who were asked for their opinions on the War and the young ones aren't usually in favor, with some saying that the old Babushkas think everything is fine.

The young ones are the ones that know how to use VPNs and social media, so they have access to external news sources and are less susceptible to Russian propaganda. The Babushkas are brainwashed, like North Koreans are from birth. I've seen a few young Russian Youtubers but it's very dangerous business for them. Just look at the recent prison sentence for that female doctor who simply made a comment while treating a patient.

 

[TankTop5]

Ukraine new secret weapon.

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Compassion?

 

[Trell]

Compassion?

What are you talking about?

 

[highfigh]

The young ones are the ones that know how to use VPNs and social media, so they have access to external news sources and are less susceptible to Russian propaganda. The Babushkas are brainwashed, like North Koreans are from birth. I've seen a few young Russian Youtubers but it's very dangerous business for them. Just look at the recent prison sentence for that female doctor who simply made a comment while treating a patient.

The Babushkas aren't much different from the older people here- they lived through hard times and made it through, often several periods- as long as their lives don't change much, things are OK, but since they usually didn't have much, they didn't have as much to lose.

I have seen comments from 'the smart kids" who are still in college now, saying that some Amendments should be changed. They want all kinds of changes, but don't stand for people disagreeing with them, so I guess freedom of speech is OK for them, but not for others. I have seen more people trying to force their views on others in the last 10 years than any other time in my life and it has been smaller groups trying to force the majority to change, sometimes by force.

Think about someone born in the central US in the early to mid-1920s; they lived through the Great Depression, WWII and if they came from the Great Plains, they had the Dust Bowl years, DURING the Depression! They were retiring when inflation was extremely high and many didn't have deep pockets but most had saved far better than people can, or do, now.

I know someone from Kyiv- he used to manage a computer store and always had Russian news in the background, so he could hear what was happening. His store was in an area where MKE has a strong Russian/Ukranian population and it was interesting to hear them talk. Well, it was interesting when they spoke English- many times, they spoke Russian and it wasn't hard to tell who had been here for a long time or came recently- the recent ones ONLY spoke Russian. The one common thing- they ALL came here because they could no longer stand to live in Russia, Ukraine or other former Soviet countries.

We can still say what we want about the government without being arrested- many other countries still don't allow that, even now.

 

[Trell]

Perhaps Biden should listen more to France.

>>>There are no "red lines" when it comes to support for Ukraine, the French Foreign Minister has told the BBC.

Jean-Noël Barrot said that Ukraine could fire French long-range missiles into Russia "in the logics of self defence", but would not confirm if French weapons had already been used.

"The principle has been set... our messages to President Zelensky have been well received," he said in an exclusive interview for Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.

French President Macron indicated France's willingness to allow its missiles to be fired into Russia earlier this year. But Barrot’s comments are significant, coming days after US and UK long-range missiles were used in that way for the first time. …<<<

No 'red lines' in Ukraine support, French foreign minister tells BBC

Jean-Noël Barrot speaks to Laura Kuenssberg after a week of escalation in Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

 

[Trell]

 

[highfigh]

I spoke with a friend over the weekend who's originally from Kyiv- I'll ask for his thoughts next time- the call was cut short by bad cell phone reception.

 

[TankTop5]

I spoke with a friend over the weekend who's originally from Kyiv- I'll ask for his thoughts next time- the call was cut short by bad cell phone reception.

I have mixed feelings on the Ukraine Russia war. Putin is pure evil and only desires to restore the Soviet Union and hurt Western interests. Meanwhile every last dollar spent in Ukraine by the US is going to our military industrial complex putting Ukraine in debt they can never repay and Blackrock and Monsanto are buying up all of Ukrainian farmland that this war is really all about. It’s gross

 

[Trell]

A little drone activity in US is creating angst among some people over there, but in the Ukraine-Russia war most of them are munition.

>>>Ukraine has delivered more than 200,000 domestically-produced drones to front-line units so far in December, Defense Minister Rustem Umerov wrote in a Facebook post on Dec. 18.

"Alongside equipment from our partners, more and more Ukrainian-made weapons are already operating on the frontlines — a joint effort of defenders and manufacturers," Umerov said.

Domestically manufactured drones help Kyiv close the ammunition gap as they face Russian forces with more artillery shells on the battlefield.

Ukraine also aims to ramp up the production of long-range drones and missiles as part of the country's resilience plan.

Zelensky previously said Ukraine aims to produce at least 30,000 long-range drones in 2025, used to target Russian warships, naval bases, oil refineries, and airfields inside occupied territories and deep behind enemy lines. ... <<<

Ukraine delivered 200,000 domestically-produced drones to front-line units so far in December, Umerov says

The Ukrainian military has proven to be a pioneer in drone technology, using innovative ways to undermine Russia's material and numerical advantage.

kyivindependent.com

 

[Dude#1279435]

Yay a Russian general went down.

 

[cpp]

The Putin news, he wants to challenge the US to a missile targeting competition.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday suggested a missile 'duel' with the United States that would show how Russia's new Oreshnik hypersonic ballistic missile could defeat any U.S. missile defense system.
Addressing Western skepticism about the Oreshnik, Putin suggested that both sides select a designated target to be protected by U.S. missiles. The man is off his rocker.

 

[TankTop5]

The Putin news, he wants to challenge the US to a missile targeting competition.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday suggested a missile 'duel' with the United States that would show how Russia's new Oreshnik hypersonic ballistic missile could defeat any U.S. missile defense system.
Addressing Western skepticism about the Oreshnik, Putin suggested that both sides select a designated target to be protected by U.S. missiles. The man is off his rocker.

Missiles defense was never intended to be perfect and never will, it’s just a problem that forces the other side to spend money and resources to deal with. The difference between the US and Russia is Russia has a single weapon system that can challenge US defense. The US has dozens of missiles that can completely destroy Russian defenses.

The US has the P-8 Poseidon and enough anti ship missiles to destroy all the major naval vessels of every navy in the world and that’s not even its main job. There are dozens of weapon systems that each do the same thing. F-16’s alone can take on the worlds air forces but we have F-15’s/F-18’s/F35’s etc…

Putin is only preaching to Russians grasping for his last breath of relevance

 

[highfigh]

The Putin news, he wants to challenge the US to a missile targeting competition.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday suggested a missile 'duel' with the United States that would show how Russia's new Oreshnik hypersonic ballistic missile could defeat any U.S. missile defense system.
Addressing Western skepticism about the Oreshnik, Putin suggested that both sides select a designated target to be protected by U.S. missiles. The man is off his rocker.

He also said that the war in Ukraine has strengthened the Russian military.

 

[Mr._Clark]

The Putin news, he wants to challenge the US to a missile targeting competition.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday suggested a missile 'duel' with the United States that would show how Russia's new Oreshnik hypersonic ballistic missile could defeat any U.S. missile defense system.
Addressing Western skepticism about the Oreshnik, Putin suggested that both sides select a designated target to be protected by U.S. missiles. The man is off his rocker.

My selection for the designated target: The Kremlin.

 

[Trell]

My selection for the designated target: The Kremlin.

For me: Wherever Putin is hiding.