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That word salad isn't very helpful.
How old are you? Also have You lived anywhere in the States. You guy's keep talking (word salad) like it's dressing. Get to your point, other than what's been post up by others. You guys talk inflation, lol. Here's facts, Nixon took us off the gold standard in the '70s. Reagan increased the deficit four fold. Now with that little trickle down economics that came to bite every citizens butt 30 years later General Motors, Ford, Chrysler Fannie Mae, you name it damn near bankrupt all of them,that taxpayers had to bail out again how's that for a word salad. Tariffs will work. Lumber? Aluminum? from Canada? Steel from China? Outsourcing manufacturing jobs to other countries has cost this country dearly. Stay in Canada your choice. Actually how much does your health care cost? 50% of your taxes. If the Democratic party had a viable candidate to run against Trump maybe I would have vote for. We as taxpayers are tired of paying for policing the world. Time has come for those kinds, of weak countries to pay their fair share. Funny how every other country hates America until they need our military or our money but yet tariffs is an issue, come on man.
 
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Someone on the right realizes there's a point to citing sources. World is in shock & awe. ;):p
And verify that the links are from reliable sources, of course. That’s a step many misses, repeatedly. Actually reading the linked article before posting is helpful too. :D
 
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And verify that the links are from reliable sources, of course. That’s a step many misses, repeatedly. Actually reading the linked article before posting is helpful too. :D
I continue to believe there isn't much of a market for conservative journalism. The right has a disdain for the sciences (including journalism) because they view them as leftist fields. I would not say 100% of them, but quite a large number. They prefer their Nat'l Inquirer-styled news over the WSJ. Part of the game plan is to replace the fake news media with fake LOL.
 
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Someone on the right realizes there's a point to citing sources. World is in shock & awe. ;):p
So, YOU'RE placing people on the Right and Left, now? You know that much? I'm right of center, but hardly as far right as you and others think I am. But that's from your collective viewpoint, so well, ya know......

Read my posts- you'll see many sources.
 
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My comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek. One of Trump's justifications for tariffs on Canadian imports is the smuggling of fentanyl into the US from Canada. I assume there is demand for it there.
I don't know how much Fentanyl comes in through Canada- it would seem easier to cross over the Southern border since it's not being guarded as well as some people say (Biden, etc). Anything coming in at official checkpoints is the fault of whomever is checking, but I don't necessarily mean it as a hard "IT'S THEIR FAULT"- smugglers are very resourceful and sometimes, it just can't be detected by machine or animal. If the US doesn't have some kind of strict inspection, it's the fault of the US, as much as anyone else. Who's bringing it in via Canada, China? They're one of the main sources of several drugs.

Yeah, there's plenty of demand in the US and plenty of OD deaths-


 
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I don't know how much Fentanyl comes in through Canada- it would seem easier to cross over the Southern border since it's not being guarded as well as some people say (Biden, etc). Anything coming in at official checkpoints is the fault of whomever is checking, but I don't necessarily mean it as a hard "IT'S THEIR FAULT"- smugglers are very resourceful and sometimes, it just can't be detected by machine or animal. If the US doesn't have some kind of strict inspection, it's the fault of the US, as much as anyone else. Who's bringing it in via Canada, China? They're one of the main sources of several drugs.

Yeah, there's plenty of demand in the US and plenty of OD deaths-


Fentanyl, like guns, don't kill people! People kill people! Besides, criminals don't follow laws so there is no point in banning fentanyl! If people where using fentanyl responsibly there would be no problems! And so forth.... :rolleyes:
 
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GO-NAD!

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How old are you?
Old enough not to conflate tenuously linked - if related at all - topics. I mean, rambling about "communism"? Yep, word salad.
Also have You lived anywhere in the States. You guy's keep talking (word salad) like it's dressing. Get to your point, other than what's been post up by others. You guys talk inflation, lol. Here's facts, Nixon took us off the gold standard in the '70s. Reagan increased the deficit four fold. Now with that little trickle down economics that came to bite every citizens butt 30 years later General Motors, Ford, Chrysler Fannie Mae, you name it damn near bankrupt all of them,that taxpayers had to bail out again how's that for a word salad. Tariffs will work. Lumber? Aluminum? from Canada? Steel from China? Outsourcing manufacturing jobs to other countries has cost this country dearly.
How are Nixon's and Reagan's actions relevant in today's context? And, globalization has cost Canada manufacturing jobs, too. So, why are we at fault? The US, Canada and Mexico have a trade pact - a deal that Trump himself agreed to! Yet, we're the first targets - in complete violation of the CUSMA. Regardless, Trump linked tariffs to drug smuggling and illegal migrants. These issues are only relevant in the most tangential way. I actually don't believe what he's saying anyway. Next week or month, the tariffs will be about something else altogether. In other words, it's all about flex. He wants to be seen as tough. Fine, but it won't come cost-free.

If you don't think these tariffs will drive up inflation, you're living in la-la-land. Tariffs may work in certain sectors, but they will cost in others.

For example, in 2019, Canadian live lobster exports to China, mostly from Nova Scotia, soared after China slapped retaliatory tariffs of 35 per cent on U.S. lobsters. U.S. lobster exports tanked while Canadian sales jumped by 123 per cent, worth a record $384 million. NS fishermen don't want to take supper off the tables of their neighbours in Maine, but if the Chinese want to buy our lobsters, we're gonna sell 'em. Do you understand now?

Stay in Canada your choice.
I'm perfectly happy living here...not sure what tat has to do with tariffs and trade either....

Actually how much does your health care cost? 50% of your taxes.
Health care? Yet, another tangent. What does this have to do with trade? And no, it isn't anywhere near 50% of our taxes.

If the Democratic party had a viable candidate to run against Trump maybe I would have vote for.
Strange. Voters preferred Harris' policies over Trump's, but voted for him anyway.
Republicans favoured Kamala Harris's policies in blind polling

That said, the quality of the Democrat candidate is not relevant to the issue of tariffs. That's on Trump and him alone.

We as taxpayers are tired of paying for policing the world. Time has come for those kinds, of weak countries to pay their fair share. Funny how every other country hates America until they need our military or our money but yet tariffs is an issue, come on man.
Nobody is telling the US to spend as much as you do on defence. That's up to the American people. Actually, if there is one plus to another Trump presidency, it might be convincing other NATO countries - mine included - to invest more in defence.

Still isn't a trade issue though...
 
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Tankini

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Old enough not to conflate tenuously linked - if related at all - topics. I mean, rambling about "communism"? Yep, word salad.

How are Nixon's and Reagan's actions relevant in today's context? And, globalization has cost Canada manufacturing jobs, too. So, why are we at fault? The US, Canada and Mexico have a trade pact - a deal that Trump himself agreed to! Yet, we're the first targets - in complete violation of the CUSMA. Regardless, Trump linked tariffs to drug smuggling and illegal migrants. These issues are only relevant in the most tangential way. I actually don't believe what he's saying anyway. Next week or month, the tariffs will be about something else altogether. In other words, it's all about flex. He wants to be seen as tough. Fine, but it won't come cost-free.

If you don't think these tariffs will drive up inflation, you're living in la-la-land. Tariffs may work in certain sectors, but they will cost in others.

For example, in 2019, Canadian live lobster exports to China, mostly from Nova Scotia, soared after China slapped retaliatory tariffs of 35 per cent on U.S. lobsters. U.S. lobster exports tanked while Canadian sales jumped by 123 per cent, worth a record $384 million. NS fishermen don't want to take supper off the tables of their neighbours in Maine, but if the Chinese want to buy our lobsters, we're gonna sell 'em. Do you understand now?
How cold is it where your at?have I told you Canada sucks.lol. have a Great day! So your a colonial. Lol
 
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GO-NAD!

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I don't know how much Fentanyl comes in through Canada- it would seem easier to cross over the Southern border since it's not being guarded as well as some people say (Biden, etc). Anything coming in at official checkpoints is the fault of whomever is checking, but I don't necessarily mean it as a hard "IT'S THEIR FAULT"- smugglers are very resourceful and sometimes, it just can't be detected by machine or animal. If the US doesn't have some kind of strict inspection, it's the fault of the US, as much as anyone else. Who's bringing it in via Canada, China? They're one of the main sources of several drugs.

Yeah, there's plenty of demand in the US and plenty of OD deaths-


I don't know either. Trump thinks it's a problem though. Maybe he's thinking more about Mexico. Regardless, he's lumping both Canada and Mexico.

His stated justifications for tariffs are migrants and drugs. This is a two-way street though. We have drugs, migrants and guns coming north, as well. There was a surge of migrants from the US during his last term and we're expecting another one - perhaps larger - this time.
Canada braces for surge of immigrants hoping to move from US
We don't threaten tariffs over these issues though...
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
I don't know either. Trump thinks it's a problem though. Maybe he's thinking more about Mexico. Regardless, he's lumping both Canada and Mexico.

His stated justifications for tariffs are migrants and drugs. This is a two-way street though. We have drugs, migrants and guns coming north, as well. There was a surge of migrants from the US during his last term and we're expecting another one - perhaps larger - this time.
Canada braces for surge of immigrants hoping to move from US
We don't threaten tariffs over these issues though...
Do you think the tariffs against Canada may be Trump going after Trudeau, in hopes that a more conservative replacement will follow? I know he has said it's about drugs and immigrants, but it's hard to imagine Trump and Trudeau being best buds. Even Poilievre is against these tariffs.

OMG! I was reading this link and......Doug Ford is still in office?

 
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Trell

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Old enough not to conflate tenuously linked - if related at all - topics. I mean, rambling about "communism"? Yep, word salad.
Of course Canada is "communist": Pay half as much as USA on health care (as percentage of GPD) and live much longer. Then there is the "quality of life" aspect of good health care.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
.... NS fishermen don't want to take supper off the tables of their neighbours in Maine, but if the Chinese want to buy our lobsters, we're gonna sell 'em. Do you understand now?
Money talks, nobody walks. ;) :D
 
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