Long range 4K HDMI Cable with eARC

[Trebdp83]

Yeah, jerk or yank it is more common. I'm doin' that since I'm a kid., with wires I mean.

 

[highfigh]

Yeah, jerk or yank it is more common. I'm doin' that since I'm a kid., with wires I mean.

I worked for an AV contractor and some most of the others had come from another company, so they had developed their own language for the tasks. Two of the terms were 'Give 'er' and 'bring it'.

 

[TLS Guy]

What do you mean by "Ruipro have been at it the longest and have a good track record"? The company is nine years old according to their website and until you mentioned them a couple of years ago, I had never heard of them in my 20+ years of working with HDMI and having used many distributors & cables by a lot of manufacturers. I have never heard a single person in the industry mention this brand and I speak with people around the country, as well as tech support for a lot of brands. Also, the fact that they show a total of 37 employees tells me they have their cables made for them, so they aren't a manufacturer since that would be a very expensive venture.

"reefing on these cables"? Who are you and what have you done with Mark? I have never heard anyone over the age of 30 use that word.

I betray my origins. I grew up on the River Medway. That last 14 miles to the Nore. It is an stretch of water where a lot of really important things happened for over a 1000 years, that still affects us now.

It is rich in seafaring history. In my youth sailing barges without engines were still carrying cargoes around the south and East coast, up to the Humber.

In addition, our summer bolt hole was in Southwold Suffolk, a fishing port on the Suffolk coast and steeped in maritime history. I used to tell the time from the state of the tide from my window. So I had a lot of reason to grow up and be fluent in nautical terms, as are most who are raised in those part.

Anyhow, reef means pull, and usually hard. It refers to pulling on a sheet. Paradoxically it refers to a rope the pulls in a sail. So a command reef the mainsail, usually where I come from pronounced "mainsul". So on sailing barge the skipper would bark to his mate, "reef the minsul". "Aye, aye sir"! would come the reply. Other commands on a sailing barge would be '"reef the foresul! Reef the spritsul"!

So reef in those parts is synonymous with a hard pull.

This is a really interesting video, "Red Sails". These are my home waters, and I remember those barges from my youth.

 

[highfigh]

I betray my origins. I grew up on the River Medway. That last 14 miles to the Nore. It is an stretch of water where a lot of really important things happened for over a 1000 years, that still affects us now.

It is rich in seafaring history. In my youth sailing barges without engines were still carrying cargoes around the south and East coast, up to the Humber.

In addition, our summer bolt hole was in Southwold Suffolk, a fishing port on the Suffolk coast and steeped in maritime history. I used to tell the time from the state of the tide from my window. So I had a lot of reason to grow up and be fluent in nautical terms, as are most who are raised in those part.

Anyhow, reef means pull, and usually hard. It refers to pulling on a sheet. Paradoxically it refers to a rope the pulls in a sail. So a command reef the mainsail, usually where I come from pronounced "mainsul". So on sailing barge the skipper would bark to his mate, "reef the minsul". "Aye, aye sir"! would come the reply. Other commands on a sailing barge would be '"reef the foresul! Reef the spritsul"!

So reef in those parts is synonymous with a hard pull.

This is a really interesting video, "Red Sails". These are my home waters, and I remember those barges from my youth.

Again, I know what it means but for whatever reason (although, not in such detail) I hadn't heard it used until somewhat recently and it was in the correct context since I was working for a boat dealer at the time and we were pulling cables.

Not much beats being on the water, IMO.

After I found out that my 10th Great grandparents sailed to America in 1654, I was with friends when we went out a couple of miles on Lake Michigan, at sunset in their 38' Carver. After it turned dark, fog rolled in and we couldn't see anything except darkness. The water was calm, but it still brought to mind the idea of sailing across (for the passengers) unknown waters and potential dangers. The experience of being on rough water in darkness happened after Labor Day, 2018- same boat, but we were returning from Door County a couple of days after a storm and the lake was very unhappy. We left Sturgeon Bay in the morning, stopped in Algoma for lunch and Two Rivers for dinner. Rough water the whole way but we couldn't make good speed because even two miles out, we had 4'-6' chop and there was no way we wanted to stay in Two Rivers because their harbor isn't protected and the docks are bare concrete, which would have done a lot of damage to the hull- we had used 6 fenders and eight lines just to be able to step off when we went to dinner. When we passed through the small gap to reach the lake, it was worse- the wind had shifted to NE, so we had 6'-9' chop but going back wasn't feasible, so we headed to Manitowoc. That was fun. The bow twitched >30° to the left and right, but auto pilot stabilized it as much as it could. The only way to see the water was with the searchlight aimed forward and down a bit. That time, we could see lights from shore but again, the thought of my ancestors and others coming across in far worse weather and seas came to mind.

 

[TLS Guy]

Again, I know what it means but for whatever reason (although, not in such detail) I hadn't heard it used until somewhat recently and it was in the correct context since I was working for a boat dealer at the time and we were pulling cables.

Not much beats being on the water, IMO.

After I found out that my 10th Great grandparents sailed to America in 1654, I was with friends when we went out a couple of miles on Lake Michigan, at sunset in their 38' Carver. After it turned dark, fog rolled in and we couldn't see anything except darkness. The water was calm, but it still brought to mind the idea of sailing across (for the passengers) unknown waters and potential dangers. The experience of being on rough water in darkness happened after Labor Day, 2018- same boat, but we were returning from Door County a couple of days after a storm and the lake was very unhappy. We left Sturgeon Bay in the morning, stopped in Algoma for lunch and Two Rivers for dinner. Rough water the whole way but we couldn't make good speed because even two miles out, we had 4'-6' chop and there was no way we wanted to stay in Two Rivers because their harbor isn't protected and the docks are bare concrete, which would have done a lot of damage to the hull- we had used 6 fenders and eight lines just to be able to step off when we went to dinner. When we passed through the small gap to reach the lake, it was worse- the wind had shifted to NE, so we had 6'-9' chop but going back wasn't feasible, so we headed to Manitowoc. That was fun. The bow twitched >30° to the left and right, but auto pilot stabilized it as much as it could. The only way to see the water was with the searchlight aimed forward and down a bit. That time, we could see lights from shore but again, the thought of my ancestors and others coming across in far worse weather and seas came to mind.

My wife and I did trip out to Manitowoc. We really liked the place, and then we did a leisurely trip down the coast to Milwaukee. That was a really nice city we thought. We will try and make a trip over the lake on the Badger this year. That is a trip I have been longing to do.

Getting caught in rough seas is tough deal. I got caught off the Nore in our boat as a youngster. Darn near ended up on the wreck of the Robert Montgomery, which sank in WWII and is full of explosives! Just heard the clang of the green wreck buoy in the neck of time.

It is right off Sheerness.

 

[highfigh]

My wife and I did trip out to Manitowoc. We really liked the place, and then we did a leisurely trip down the coast to Milwaukee. That was a really nice city we thought. We will try and make a trip over the lake on the Badger this year. That is a trip I have been longing to do.

Getting caught in rough seas is tough deal. I got caught off the Nore in our boat as a youngster. Darn near ended up on the wreck of the Robert Montgomery, which sank in WWII and is full of explosives! Just heard the clang of the green wreck buoy in the neck of time.

It is right off Sheerness.

Manitowoc has a nice marina and harbor- I went on a boat trip to the bay side opposite Sturgeon Bay, WI and while we were there a pretty bad storm rolled through. Lake Michigan can be very rough when the wind comes from the NE and, well, it was. We left on a Monday, reached the end of the canal and immediately saw that it was going to be interesting. It was more chop than rollers, but we had those, too. Went out two miles so it wouldn't be so rough and it helped, but it became worse as the day went on. Stopped for lunch in Algoma, headed South and passed on Kewaunee because we had heard bad things about their harbor & marina, continued and had dinner in Two Rivers. The wind had persisted during dinner and when we reached the gap, it wasn't good but we couldn't get a slip, so we headed to Manitowoc- 4'-6' chop with bigger rollers. It took more than an hour to go about 6 miles and even with auto-pilot, it was dicey. We pulled into Manitowoc and the water was dead calm, so we docked and dealt with the formalities in the morning because the marina was closed. Next day, it was still too rough and not even the trawlers or sailboats left, so we stayed. On Wednesday, the owners of the trawler across the pier started their engine at about 5:30AM, so we were fully awake. We talked about their plans and after they pulled out, did the same when others emerged and decided that if it was too bad when we reached the gap, we could always return. We headed out to around two miles- still had 4' chop, but the rollers had grown to 6'-9'. The rollers were favorable with a following wind, so we continued. When we rode the waves downward and reached the bottom of the trough, the crest was level with the 38' Carver's pulpit. We went into the waves at about 16 knots and rode down from the crest at about 24 knots.

It was a beautiful day.

The Badger was in port for service- took quite a while to complete and now, I'm seeing that they want to find a 'greener' fuel. It's the last coal-fired ship on the Great Lakes.

 

[LumiLinkSeeker]

Hello!!

I am looking for an ideal solution to resolve my problem running a long range HDMI with eARC capabilities.

my media control is situated on the second floor and I would like to run a HDMI from here to the first floor living room where my TV is. I am looking for a solution that can do 4K at 120hz and eARC capabilities for return audio from the TV to the AVR. I considers wyrestorm and blustorm products, but are very expensive and they don’t do 120hz.

my other option is a optic fiber HDMI cable, and I see some options online that are inexpensive but the brands are not heard off, so not sure of the quality and don’t have confidence in getting them.

have you been in a similar situation, how did you resolve this problem? Any advice on good cables I can consider?

appreciate your feedback

cheees!! Srisha

If other methods don't work, I suggest you go to Amazon and buy a fiber optic HDMI cable. It may be that the distance is too long. Copper wires generally cannot work properly over 60ft. Fiber optic cables can reach up to 1600ft with no transmission attenuation. It may solve your problem. Of course, it is best to do it when there is no other way. After all, this involves buying a new cable.

 

[curlyjive]

I found this thread while trying to get to the bottom of conflicting information on the CTG power inserter.

I have an older 18gbps Ruipro cable 40ft that has worked flawlessly for 5 year with my JVC RS540. I have purchase and RS1100 (NP5) and started reading about HDMI boards being fried by Ruipro Cables.

My vendor AVScience suggested the power inserter. I also reached out to JVC who in turn contacted Legrand, the company that makes the CTG inserters. They were told the inserted doesn't actually do what it's advertised to do. That instead it acts as a signal booster. That seemed very strange to me as Legrands own cut sheet clearly says otherwise.

So I'm left uncertain what to do. I have reached out to Legrand myself to see what they have to say.

I see in this thread that using the inserter is highly recommend for exactly this protection reason. Can anyone shed some light on the conflicting information?

Also, if the inserter is the solution, should it go on the source or display end?

 

[randomuser]

If other methods don't work, I suggest you go to Amazon and buy a fiber optic HDMI cable. It may be that the distance is too long. Copper wires generally cannot work properly over 60ft. Fiber optic cables can reach up to 1600ft with no transmission attenuation. It may solve your problem. Of course, it is best to do it when there is no other way. After all, this involves buying a new cable.

its been a while since I provided an update on this thread, I finally went ahead and purchased the Rupiro 30 mts 4K HDMI cable with eARC, so far the cable has worked well with video quality and dont see any loss in video quality, Dolby Vision, HDR and other formats being transmitted correctly.

The only issue that I see is that, there is an intermittent audio loss for a split second, this is continuous and no matter which streaming device I am using, I have tried everything to see if there was any data loss or internet issues with the devices relying on data, but was not a internet issue, so I have now concluded that it is probably a faulty cable or may be the cable is unable to transmit voice efficiently over that length,

Since then I have approached Rupiro, and they have now sent me a brand new cable that is Optic Fiber based and I am told that this cable should resolve my issues, I am yet to try this, it might take a few weeks before I can replace and provide some feedback...

But, thank you all for the feedback so far, much appreciated!!