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mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Russia have just shelled a nuclear reactor in Zaporizhzhia Ukraine. The act looks to be deliberate. One of the six reactors caught fire. The Ukrainians got the fire extinguished, and radiation levels are now said to be normal.

Boris Johnson now says the Russians are a threat to all Europe.

In my view we need to get this shut down. We need to send everything we have got over there, and go in, and get this illegal invasion shut down, or we are all going to regret it.
Yes, but, how about his nuclear option so well stated by him. What does he have to lose? He doesn't care about anyone except his glory.
 
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Yes, but, how about his nuclear option so well stated by him. What does he have to lose? He doesn't care about anyone except his glory.
Word needs to get out that someone could haul in a tidy sum of money for disclosing Putin's location and make it possible to take him out.
 
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Danzilla31

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Word needs to get out that someone could haul in a tidy sum of money for disclosing Putin's location and make it possible to take him out.
He's former KGB and he's assassinated and eliminated all of his opposition in his rise to the top. Doubt it will be easy for even his own inner circle to get to him. Guy is supposed to be paranoid as hell and knows all the tricks in the book
 
SithZedi

SithZedi

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Let's think this is the best scenario for a second. Putin gets whacked by someone.
Pick a point in history, better to do with modern history, Tito in Yugoslavia and come forward.
The result has been either chaos(Yugo, Iraq, Libya, Egypt) or another dictator in the aftermath.

Russia is a country that has never experienced democracy in its 1,000 history. It will have to be educated from the ground up.

Some of the scenarios we should expect or strat for:
Territorial breakdown and civil war. In a country filled with military equipment and thousands of nuclear weapons scattered all over place. Their supply of Topol's are mobile, or mounted on trucks.
We'll probably get a few dictators in these breakaway republics.
China to sweep North into Mongolia and Siberia.

The only way this could work in a country this large would be for a full army to occupy Russia immediately after Putin is toppled. Think as the Allies did in Germany, Italy and Japan. Who is going to that and the competently manage a transition to democracy? Our state department couldn't handle Iraq after the military defeated their military. Which Western leader is going to take the lead, have the resources, and vision to see this through.

This war should never have started because war on this scale unleashes hell and unknown, unknowns....
Sorry, this is depressing to type.
 
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panteragstk

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He's former KGB and he's assassinated and eliminated all of his opposition in his rise to the top. Doubt it will be easy for even his own inner circle to get to him. Guy is supposed to be paranoid as hell and knows all the tricks in the book
That'd do it. Get to a position of power the way he did, and there is no doubt a line of folks waiting to end him. Hell, he didn't even sit anywhere near his advisors in one photo.

Granted, that could be for fear they'll kill him, or he had to sit where the buttons that control the trap door to the shark pit are located.
 
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Dude#1279435

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There anything about the convoy that can be done to slow it down? Knock over some trees, drop some bombs etc. Or does Russia control the air space too?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Word needs to get out that someone could haul in a tidy sum of money for disclosing Putin's location and make it possible to take him out.
Supposedly there is a Russian oligarch living in the US placed a $1 million bounty on Putler head. May not be enough though' might need $50 mil or more?
Either read this on a feed or radio, not sure.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Sorry, this is depressing to type.
Depressing? There is a pill for that. This goes beyond it. :eek:
Reminds me of all those movies about after the calamity, like Book of Eli, and some others. Cannot imagine it, too far removed from these events. :(
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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That'd do it. Get to a position of power the way he did, and there is no doubt a line of folks waiting to end him. Hell, he didn't even sit anywhere near his advisors in one photo.

Granted, that could be for fear they'll kill him, or he had to sit where the buttons that control the trap door to the shark pit are located.
One photo? There are a number of others; white table of enormous size, dark wood table the latest, must be 50ft long.
 
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Mr._Clark

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I watched "Citizen K" the other night. I'd recommend it if you're interested in trying to understand the current situation in Russia.

It's a 2019 documentary about Mikhail Khodorkovsky (It's on Amazon Prime). Khodorkovsky had been one of the wealthiest (if not the wealthiest) Russian until he had a run-in with Putin and spent years in a Siberian prison. The movie portrays him as being a "good guy with flaws" of sorts. The movie frequently touches on Putin's rise to power and the rise of the Russian oligarchs. If nothing else, it provides some insight into the present situation in Russia.

Here's the IMDb blurb about the movie:

>>>The strange case of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, once believed to be the wealthiest man in Russia, who rocketed to prosperity and prominence in the 1990s, served a decade in prison, and became an unlikely martyr for the anti-Putin movement.<<<


Here's recent interview with Khodorkovsky on CNN:


I'm not sure I trust everything he says, but I'm sure he's well aware of the fact that he's putting his own life at risk by speaking out against Putin.

He also founded "Open Russia" which purports to advocate democracy and human rights. According to wiki "In 2017 the organisation was listed as undesirable by Russia's Prosecutor General, and its website banned in Russia." To my mind, that suggests it can't be all bad.

 
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Hey, I got an idea!! If the convoy truckers can do it, so can we. Lets start a go fund me page for Putin's assassination. Its for a good cause!! :p
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Supposedly there is a Russian oligarch living in the US placed a $1 million bounty on Putler head. May not be enough though' might need $50 mil or more?
Either read this on a feed or radio, not sure.
Snopes says this is "true" with regards to a $1 million bounty for the arrest of Putin, which was originally posted with a Dead or Alive poster:

>>>Russian entrepreneur Alex Konanykhin posted a message on social media offering a $1 million bounty for the arrest of Vladimir Putin. While the text of Konanykhin's message merely called for Putin's arrest, a since-deleted version featured Putin's face on a "Dead or Alive" poster, and many on social media referred to the message as a "bounty on Putin's head." Konanykhin says he was not promising to pay for Putin's assassination.<<<

 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

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Snopes says this is "true" with regards to a $1 million bounty for the arrest of Putin, which was originally posted with a Dead or Alive poster:

>>>Russian entrepreneur Alex Konanykhin posted a message on social media offering a $1 million bounty for the arrest of Vladimir Putin. While the text of Konanykhin's message merely called for Putin's arrest, a since-deleted version featured Putin's face on a "Dead or Alive" poster, and many on social media referred to the message as a "bounty on Putin's head." Konanykhin says he was not promising to pay for Putin's assassination.<<<

Thanks.
OK, a bounty on his whole live body in captivity. :D

Even worse, $1mil will not be enough to capture.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Word needs to get out that someone could haul in a tidy sum of money for disclosing Putin's location and make it possible to take him out.
We know where he is. He spends most of his time in a bunker under the Kremlin, except for TV ops at the end of a long table so no one can knife him!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Latest news from London.

Mr. Johnson was woken in the night by a call from Mr. Zelensky, who informed him that the nuclear power plant on the Dnieper river was under attack. The Ukrainian president thought the plant had been captured by "Chechen guerillas and that they would do something very irresponsible", the Prime Minister said.

Boris Johnson is very worried about a nuclear cloud enveloping Europe.

The British public seems in a highly bellicose mood, which is probably appropriate. As I read it the prospect of a NATO military advance on Ukraine is rising by the minute. There seems to be rapid consensus that any radiation from an attacked nuclear plant reaching a NATO country will constitute and attack.

The way I read the comment sections in the Minneapolis paper, the citizenry round here is also in a Bellicose mood.

The whole trouble is compounded by the cart before the horse in the energy front. We have been cutting off sources of energy without planning replacements, hoping that wind mills and solar panels will get us by. They won't.

Natural das prices have spiked 13 fold in the UK. Yes, up 13 times. So my brother James usually spends 2000 to 3000 GBP on heating costs depending on how cold the winter is. Energy prices are higher there than here. At the current price it would mean his energy costs would be at least 26,000 GBP and may be up to 35,000 GBP, unless measures can be taken to bring the price down. Gasoline prices are rising fast over there, as they are here. I expect prices to be over $4 a gallon by early next week. They are just at $3.60 here today. On my way back from my son's place this evening, I saw one station at $3.79.

My sense is a widening of the war is imminent. Time to download Home Security dept. advice to home owners in event of nuclear attack I fear.
 
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Danzilla31

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Latest news from London.

Mr. Johnson was woken in the night by a call from Mr. Zelensky, who informed him that the nuclear power plant on the Dnieper river was under attack. The Ukrainian president thought the plant had been captured by "Chechen guerillas and that they would do something very irresponsible", the Prime Minister said.

Boris Johnson is very worried about a nuclear cloud enveloping Europe.

The British public seems in a highly bellicose mood, which is probably appropriate. As I read it the prospect of a NATO military advance on Ukraine is rising by the minute. There seems to be rapid consensus that any radiation from an attacked nuclear plant reaching a NATO country will constitute and attack.

The way I read the comment sections in the Minneapolis paper, the citizenry round here is also in a Bellicose mood.

The whole trouble is compounded by the cart before the horse in the energy front. We have been cutting off sources of energy without planning replacements, hoping that wind mills and solar panels will get us by. They won't.

Natural das prices have spiked 13 fold in the UK. Yes, up 13 times. So my brother James usually spends 2000 to 3000 GBP on heating costs depending on how cold the winter is. Energy prices are higher there than here. At the current price it would mean his energy costs would be at least 26,000 GBP and may be up to 35,000 GBP, unless measures can be taken to bring the price down. Gasoline prices are rising fast over there, as they are here. I expect prices to be over $4 a gallon by early next week. They are just at $3.60 here today. On my way back from my son's place this evening, I saw one station at $3.79.

My sense is a widening of the war is imminent. Time to download Home Security dept. advice to home owners in event of nuclear attack I fear.
I agree 100% we brought a lot of this on ourselves with this idea of achieving green earth and climate control by becoming reliant on geopolitical superpowers who are our adverseries at worst direct competitors at best to provide us our true energy sources. Who then suprise used all our money to build up there military and other sectors to do exactly what Putin did in Ukraine

When you really think about how the Western world tried to achieve clean energy from this point of view it looks absolutely ridiculous. Insane even.

I would be however very suprised to see Nato commit any troops into Ukraine at this point.

I 100% feel a little pissed about all of us in Nato including the US for dragging us into this mess in the first damn place. If you won't back Ukraine up with military force and you convinced them to give up there nukes

Then don't string them along for the last God knows how many years with the idea of Nato which just keeps poking the Russian bear and finally instigating this conflict if you really weren't prepared to do something about it.

Putin is a monster but we have a lot to blame for ourselves in this situation. This could have been prevented.

As far as our Home Security giving us advice on nuclear war there is none. There is no surviving nuclear war. I don't understand how people consider this even an option. The only winning move with nuclear war is not to play.
 
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