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bsf

Audioholic
Music only ... every type of music from classical to rap.... but mostly i listen to rock 1960-70's
30ft by 14ft room
all music on mac


I'm planning on spending between 2,000 to 4,000
 
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bsf

Audioholic
some possible
Revel F206
Definitive Tech. Mythos 300w
BW cm9
studio 100 paradigm
Triton Two tower
Monitor audio silver 8 series
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Welcome to the forum!

Do you have any way to audition some of those speakers in your home, or at a dealer/acquaintance nearby? $2000-$4000 can get some nice speakers, and I'm assuming that you are looking at two (not five or seven) - correct?

Also, when you say "mac," do you mean an Apple computer? If so, what do you have to power the speakers?
 
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bsf

Audioholic
NO thats the problem... the closest audio shop (best buy) is 80 miles ... i need to base everything on reviews
2 speakers.
iMac (apple).. I'll need an amp/DAC as well, possibly a sub.... hoping to get a nice setup for under 5,000
 
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bsf

Audioholic
No i'll get a sub eventually.... i have around a 5k budget... don't really have to have a full range speaker but i'll take a look
 
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GIEGAR

Full Audioholic
Music only ... every type of music from classical to rap.... but mostly i listen to rock 1960-70's
30ft by 14ft room
all music on mac


I'm planning on spending between 2,000 to 4,000
NO thats the problem... the closest audio shop (best buy) is 80 miles ... i need to base everything on reviews
2 speakers.
iMac (apple).. I'll need an amp/DAC as well, possibly a sub.... hoping to get a nice setup for under 5,000
BSF with your healthy budget, I'd give the passive speaker "paradigm" the big heave-ho. :D

GO ACTIVE!

This would offer awesome performance in your largish room: Funk Audio Speaker and Subwoofer Set - 2.1 active powered system Price Reduced!

Hook them and the iMac up to something like this for processing, auto setup, room EQ and bass management: Marantz AV7701 7.2 4K & 3D AV Preamp/Processor.
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Well, if you don't require full range speakers, I would recommend the Active Focal Solo6Be ($2700) or, if you plan to seriously crank it in that big room, the Twin6Be ($3700) . Assuming your Mac will function as the pre-amp, you won't need a receiver or amp (but you will eventually need something to manage the crossover for bass). Note that these pro audio speakers use the same drivers as the Focal Utopia series (without the fancy cabinets and teh outrageous price tag).

They can't be too bad if DTS chose them for their high end demo room:

http://www.harmonycentral.com/news/focal-twin6-be-monitors-installed-in-dts-demo-room

Edit: Depending on what features you want in your pre-amp, most DACS with volume control (i.e. built in pre-amp) have balanced and unbalanced outputs. So if you use the balanced variable outputs going to active speakers, you can use the unbalanced variable outputs going to your sub.
 
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ImcLoud

ImcLoud

Audioholic Ninja
You can get an amazing setup for $5000...

https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-2
https://emotiva.com/products/dacs/xda-2-gen2

http://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-2x4

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls-15Dual.html

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/SRM2/srm2.html

If you use them few items as a starting point, you will get a lot for your money and I have not heard a speaker that costs as much as that entire list that sounds better than the uls/sierra2 combo....

The other good part is that you can demo everything at home from them companies...

there are plenty of good components out there..
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/dual-subwoofers/dual-sb-2000
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/rr2150.html
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/2200.html
 
Cos

Cos

Audioholic Samurai
That's a long room. Up your budget a tiny bit and you might be able to look at the Triton Ones :)

I really liked the Revel F206s when I tested them out.
 
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bsf

Audioholic
Do you think the Triton Ones would be best choice?
At 5k without an amp dac that'd be around 7000g system.. the Triton Ones are probably way over my needs/budget
What about the B&W CM10
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
My recommendation is the RBH SX-8300, which you can probably get for under $3500 (MSRP $5K).

Each tower has the equivalent of about one SX-1010 subwoofer if you actively bi-amp the bass using an external amp (like a $280 Crown XLS1000 or $300 HSU subwoofer amp). Thus, a pair of SX-8300 would be like having dual SX-1010 subwoofers, again if you actively bi-amp the bass using LFE. So you may not even need additional subwoofers.

In terms of the midrange and treble, I think they sound as good as any speaker I've heard.

In terms of bass, if you actively bi-amp them, they sound better than any speaker I've actually heard, except for the SX-T2. ;)

In terms of best placement for bass/LFE effects, according to Harman International research, 2 of the best placements are the front corners and the front 1/4W corner, which is about where most people place their front 2 speakers.

So go to the RBH website and locate a dealer near you. Maybe they have some speakers for you to audition.
 
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bsf

Audioholic
RBH SX-8300 isn't ath 3500 each?

I did find a dealer somewhat near by... maybe this weekend ill check them out

Revel F206 would be solid at 3500 for the pair..
 
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Cos

Cos

Audioholic Samurai
Do you think the Triton Ones would be best choice?
At 5k without an amp dac that'd be around 7000g system.. the Triton Ones are probably way over my needs/budget
What about the B&W CM10
You shouldn't pay 5k for The ones, now that they have been out for a bit, and you won't have to invest in subs, trust me on this :)
I have a really good contact for the Ones, authorized dealer and substantial savings.

I have been 100% satisfied, I love their ribbon tweeter, mid is excellent and bass is tight. There is a reason pretty much every review site on these speakers is five stars and its consistently at or near the top of list for speakers in its price range.

http://www.goldenear.com/products/triton-series?gktab=5

RBH are awesome speakers too, just too much work for my taste and I don't want that much extra equipment. The subs on the Ones are excellent.
 
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bsf

Audioholic
What kind of receiver do you recommend for the Ones and for a DAC?
I'll check them out this weekend... if i can get them for well under 5k id definitely buy them

Id deff. look at the triton two.... seems like they might be better....
 
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bsf

Audioholic
Do you think the triton ones are superior to the B&W CM10?
 
Cos

Cos

Audioholic Samurai
Do you think the triton ones are superior to the B&W CM10?
IMO, without question the ones are better, but it is your opinion that matters, you should be able to find places to audition both. Consider all options and demo a lot 3-4k is a significant investment.

Keep tabs on CES 2015 for Golden Ear as well, they will have another surprise for you if you are wanting to keep you budget down a little more. CES 2015 starts today.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
RBH SX-8300 isn't ath 3500 each?

I did find a dealer somewhat near by... maybe this weekend ill check them out

Revel F206 would be solid at 3500 for the pair..
SX-8300 MSRP is $5K per pair. But your dealer may be able to get them for you for under $3500. You can often get 15-30% discounts from big companies like Revel, B&W, KEF, & RBH.

Call the dealer and see what speakers they have. If they don't have the SX-8300, then at least you can get a "taste" of what RBH speakers sound like in the treble and midrange.

In terms of bass, when actively bi-amped, I think the SX-8300 is better than almost all the towers I've ever listened to including $25K towers.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Do you think the triton ones are superior to the B&W CM10?
I think you will get more bass from the Triton One than the CM10 for sure. The treble and midrange are subjective opinion.

I have owned the Def Tech BP7000SC, which also has built-in sub and built-in amp. I liked it a lot. But my only complaint with the Def Tech and the Golden Ear Triton One is the built-in amp.

You are basically paying plenty of money for those plate amps that aren't any better than a $280 Crown XLS1000 amp. And this is not just in the Triton One, but in most speakers and subwoofers with built-in amps.

In addition for paying for built-in amps, if anything happens to those amps, you get zero bass in your towers and you have no choice but to order replacement amps which could cost you $400-$500. And if you are unlucky, those parts may be on backorder, especially years later when they come out with newer models and your speakers become vintage.

I would much rather use my own amps ($280 - $300) and not have to worry about any of that at all.
 

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