The Headphone Thread! Share Your Gear and Impressions, Etc.

Discussion in 'Headphones and Earphones' started by afterlife2, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. slipperybidness Audioholic Spartan

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    Yup, similar with my Philharmonics and my Rythmik sub.

    At first, I thought the bass in each sounded a bit thin. Then I came to realize that I had been used to bass bloat and distortion from crappy subs. More likely that my ear became more refined vs. the speakers breaking in.

    Now, that Rythmik--The first time I was playing COD BLOPS2 and got hit with an EMP--Dang, for a split second I thought a truck had hit the side of my house! The neighbor probably thought the same thing :)
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  2. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    If you mean true cans...yes...that is a part of what you pay for. In addition to sound quality, comfort.

    I can wear my Hifiman cans for an entire CD or a 30 song playlist w/o having to take them off.
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  3. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    That's another one of those questions where the answer might be subjective in nature. I'm a couple of weeks away from placing my order for pr of Salks and a center channel to put a cap on this rebuild. In the interim I've spoken with Jim Salk a couple of times and he did mention a "break in" period before really cranking them up. I really didn't probe into this area much, but the RBH sales rep I spoke to just a few week ago mentioned break in period as well.

    What it really means in terms of sonic quality, I'm not sure.
  4. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    Aside from better midrange/highs...there is a huge improvement in comfort with brands like Sennhisers, Opps, Hifiman over something like Beats imo.
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    Gotcha. I'm just getting started with my consideration for a set of cans. Any suggestions where to go to audition a few you mentioned?
  6. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    I suppose it would be the same where you are if you are in a larger metropolis.

    BB Magnolia is not a bad place to start. I've found that not all of them carry the same things, but most of them will have the B&Ws on the high end and some might even have the Oppos. The regular part of the store should have Beats, Sol, etc. just to be able to discern the difference.

    Sennhisers and probably Oppo as well from my experience here in the ATL area will be in the boutique type hifi dealers...those retailers are not around like they used to be, but that's where I found them...a website search might reveal the dealers near you. Grado and Hifiman for sure are direct sales. I heard my Hifiman from a friend actually.

    One question you're going to want answered early on...do you want open back or closed back designs? Oppo/B&W are good closed back designs, I think Senns have both types...Hifiman are open back....pretty much what you are thinking...open backs allow more sound to bleed thru to your surrounding.
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    ...and closed back can get uncomfortable over time, right? I'm thinking probably closed back, but I'm also thinking allowing for a little breathing might be a good thing.

    I do have a Best Buy Magnolia room that's in reasonable driving distance. I'll find an excuse to be on that side of town in the next couple of days.
  8. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    The earcups on a good pair of closed backs will be fine, but the breath ability factor obviously won't be the same.

    I think the open, broader soundstage of open backs won me over more so than the comfort factor initially. I've really come to appreciate the comfort factor now that I've had them for a while.

    hifiman he400i.JPG

    These are mine...a notch or two above entry level in the hifiman line. Fairly sensitive so you can get reasonable performance with a computer or ipod, but you get the full potential out of them with a headphone amp/dac imo.
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    They look very nice. Comfortable. I'll get out in the next day or 2 and report back my findings/brands I got a chance to listen to. Oh, I wear glasses. Does that normally pose a problem with wearing ear cups?
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    Personally, I've never experienced the break-in phenomena with audio equipment. I did notice that I like my speakers more and more as the time goes by, but I haven't noticed the change.

    I did noticed a lot of changes; few inches further from the wall and the boomines dramatically drops and I get deeper bass, the sound changed when I changed the amp (I'm not claiming this has to do with the actual amp section, both were intgr. so it might as well have been because of the pre-amp section), different rips - different sound obviously, even when I connect the source to a different port on the amp, but this still has to do with the pre-amp section as one port completely by passes it and the other doesn't.

    So I can detect nuances, but I've honestly never detected the change from break-in.
  11. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    I don't wear glasses so I can't say for sure. There is some pressure from clamps, enough to where the cans are not going to move around much. It's offset by the softness and padding of the ear cups. So they don't feel like they are squeezing your head, but it could be enough pressure to pose a problem.

    I'll put them on with my sunglasses this evening and let you know.
  12. slipperybidness Audioholic Spartan

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    To be very honest here, you really MUST prioritize COMFORT first for headphones. If they are not comfortable to wear for you, then ALL other factors like cost and sound quality go right out the window!

    What's the point of having the most amazing headphones in the world, if you can only stand to wear them for 20 minutes?

    And, as you know, the most comfortable headphones for ME may be incredibly awkward or uncomfortable on YOU.

    So, find ones that are comfortable and within your budget, then start looking at sound quality, style, and build quality.

    Open back vs close back: I have only heard 1 pair of open backs, my Senn 598. Open backs are an odd listening experience for the first time user! It really seems to sound more like listening to speakers than headphones (assuming that you have only heard closed-back in the past). On the other hand, closed back seems like the "music is in your head". I own both, use both, like both. It's hard for me to say which I really prefer, they are just different. Closed back has a head start for better bass performance, but my ears tend to sweat a bit more while wearing the closed designs. I probably lean a little more towards preferring the closed backs, but I do really like the audio experience for open backs.

    I also own a set of the RBH BT ear buds. I'm not really a huge fan of ear buds, but these are good. If I am being very active, they work better for me vs traditional headphones. And, I love that I can just shove them in my pocket. But, the main reason that I bought these is because our city has a hands-free phone ordnance for driving, and my car is too old for built in BT. It's a $500 fine here for driving with your phone in your hand!
  13. 2channel lover Audioholic

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    Several good points there Slippery.

    You are so right on the sound of open backs...they do mimic speakers in your home system more than closed back. Within the same pricepoint, imo the bass in closed backs is a little more pronounced.

    Comfort...agree 100%. When you get into the midfi/ hifi category with headphones, most of them are going to sound pretty good, what will set one apart from another should be comfort. From my experience demoing maybe 12-15 cans before I bought mine, I think you're going to know within 5 mins or so if the cans are going to work for you. If you feel like you're "tolerating" them after a song or 2, they're probably not for you. One the flip side, if you've listened to 3 or 4 songs and don't even think about taking them off, comfort wise, you might have found the right pair.

    That said, for me the sweat factor is a component of comfort. Even the nicest closed back pair that I demoed, after a few songs I had to take them off for my ears to breathe a bit.

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