I'd like to get everyone's takes on the auto-setup routines of most AVRs available today, i.e. Audyssey, Pioneer's proprietary system, etc. On my particular unit, the Onkyo 605, Audyssey's rather basic 2EQ system is utilized, but I have found after doing exhaustive testing and A/Bing back and forth between non-Audyssey'ed audio on this particular AVR, that I prefer the sound without Audyssey engaged nor without its channel level settings... I realize there are different things at play here -- that is, Audyssey sets trim levels, applies an EQ curve, attempts distances and even hints at crossover points (which is something actually being implemented by the manufacturer, i.e. Onkyo, Denon, Marantz et al), however, I seem to prefer the sound and results I get when I manually measure my speakers' distances from the sweet spot, adjust the channel levels, choose crossover points and leave the equalizer system off. With Audyssey, it seems to leave a "blanket" over the sound of my speakers, applying the cinema filter that seems to choke out all the high frequencies, and the speaker channel trim levels are just all over the place (that is with a dead quiet room and proper usage of the mic) -- to say nothing of the weird crossover points applied (an Onkyo deficiency). I just seem to prefer the sound with the EQ off, and Audyssey not running, thus applying my own channel balance and crossover points... What do you all think? Is Audyssey something that should definitely be run and applied, even if it's the basic 2EQ version? Any of you running your AVRs without Audyssey, or whatever proprietary system your AVR has? I don't like the fact that no matter how many times you run the routine, you get back different results; it just doesn't seem to be something to trust. Will a system definitely sound better with Audyssey's EQ curve on rather than leaving it off, as I do? What are your thoughts?