Something smells fishy in this thread, and I'm still not buying the premise being presented here, that speakers of the past were somehow just as good. If someone told me to swap out my Salon 2s for any speaker produced in the 1990s, no less the 1980s or the 1970s, I'd say hell no, and if you touch them you can speak to my friend Mr. Winchester. If recordings are held constant, and they are, because I still listen to the ones made in the 70s and 80s, and amps haven't changed much, and I'm using a DAC with a design from 2002, then the only reasonable conclusion is that speakers, even very expensive speakers, are generally better than they were twenty-plus years ago. Not that a few speakers from the past weren't very good, and I mentioned some in an earlier post, but I'm still stepping back and thinking that I wouldn't trade the speaker market of today for one of anytime in the past. I can't say that I really miss any out-of-production speakers.