BOB MARLEY ~ THE WAILERS ~ FIRST ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES

HDOM

HDOM

Audioholic Intern
Here we can talk about the Bob Marleys REEL TO REEL ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES or at least the ones we know!

From wikipedia:

The Wailing Wailers and is by studio one release in 1965 (this studio one is located in Jamaica) but in wikipedia we can read:

"The label and studio were closed when Dodd relocated to New York City in the 1980s."

do this mean that all the studio master tapes from Jamaica were (sorry my english) taked by aircraft to New York?

in discogs i found even a earlier single made buy Coxsone Records ( i jamaican studio or a jamaican producer in Brooklin?)

i see also that some master tapes are in the hand of Bob Marley relatives:

Restoration of Older Analogue Recordings »

Rita also had found a destroyed master tapes in africa:

Soul Rebels and Soul Revolution
Released: 1970 and 1971
Label: Upsetter/Trojan

from wikipedia:

"Upsetter Records was a Jamaican record label set up by Lee "Scratch" Perry in 1968. Perry also opened the Upsetter Record Shop where he sold the records he produced.
Lee "Scratch" Perry worked for Coxsone Dodd's Studio One record label and later for Joe Gibbs's Amalgamated Records through the 1950s and 1960s. Amid personal and financial disagreements, he left, and in 1968 he formed his own label as an outlet for music he produced and his own recordings. The label was named Upsetter Records, and the house band was The Upsetters. "The Upsetter" was Perry's nickname after his 1968 single "I Am The Upsetter", a musical dismissal of his former boss Coxsone Dodd.
Upsetter Records signed a distribution deal with the U.K. based Trojan Records, and had its first success with Perry and The Upsetters' 1969 album Return of Django, which became a hit in the U.K. The label proceeded to release productions by many major Jamaican performers, including The Wailers and early sessions of Bob Marley and the Wailers.
In 1973, The Wailers left and signed up with Island Records. Aston "Family Man" Barrett and his brother Carlton (Carlie) Barrett left The Upsetters and formed the Wailers Band, the backing band of The Wailers, and later part of Bob Marley and the Wailers.[3] Despite the setback, Perry turned his fortunes around when, in the same year, he built Black Ark Studios — which recorded for Upsetter Records and other labels, becoming a center of creativity in reggae music.
Upsetter Records continued to release records throughout the 1970s, and in 1981, Perry had a breakdown and burned down Black Ark Studios.

In 1989, after King Tubby's death, the studio was looted."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsetter_Records_(Jamaican_record_label)

That the studio was looted what do that mean?


Soul Revolution release 1971 by label Beverley's

from wikipedia:

"Beverley's was a Jamaican record label (19611971) owned by the Chinese Jamaican record producer Leslie Kong....The Beverley's ice-cream parlour/record shop at 135 Orange Street in Kingston was run by the Chinese-Jamaican Kong family, one of whom, Leslie Kong, started the Beverley's record label.

Kong launched the label in 1961 after Jimmy Cliff auditioned the song "Dearest Beverley" at the shop, the first release on the label being Cliff's "Hurricane Hattie", with "Dearest Beverley" on the b-side.

Prior to this, Beverley's was a restaurant and records shop owned by Leslie Kong and his brothers, Fats and Cecil and never had produced records. Kong had no experience of record production but had the finances to employ the cream of Jamaica's musical talent.

Throughout the 1960s Beverley's recorded many Jamaican artists including Desmond Dekker (including many of his biggest hits including "Israelites" and "007"), The Maytals ("Monkey Man"), Derrick Morgan ("Forward March"), and the Pioneers ("Long Shot Kick De Bucket"), and launched the career of Bob Marley with his first two singles. Marley returned to Beverley's with the Wailers for several more singles including "Soul Shakedown Party". Fellow Wailer Peter Tosh also recorded solo material for the label.

In 1963, Kong began licensing recordings to Black Swan, a subdivision of friend Chris Blackwell's Island Records. Later he licensed recordings to Graeme Goodall's Pyramid and to Trojan Records by the end of the 60s.

The Beverley's label folded with the death of Leslie Kong in 1971.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley's

What do they mean when they say that the label folded?


"Trojan Records is a British record label founded in 1968. It specialises in ska, rocksteady, reggae and dub music. The label currently operates under the Sanctuary Records Group."
Do this mean they dont use the name Trojan no more?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Records

All the others Bob Marley studio albums from 1973 until 1983 were produced by Island/Tuff Gong
from wikipedia:
"Island Records is a major record label that operates as a division of Universal Music Group (UMG). It was founded by Chris Blackwell, Graeme Goodall, and Leslie Kong in Jamaica and has been based in the United Kingdom since 1962"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_Records

Do this m ean that the original studio in Jamaica doesnt exist? and that all the original Master Tapes from that studio were translated by ship or aircraft to United Kingdom?´

Tuff Gong from wikipedia:

"Tuff Gong is the brand name associated with a number of businesses started by Bob Marley and the Marley family. 'Tuff Gong' comes from Marley's nickname, which was in turn an echo of that given to founder of the Rastafari movement, Leonard "The Gong" Howell.

Tuff Gong is a record label formed by the reggae group The Wailers in 1970. The first single on the label was "Run For Cover" by The Wailers. After 1973, the Tuff Gong headquarters was located at 56 Hope Road, Kingston, Jamaica — Bob Marley's home. The location is now home to the Bob Marley Museum.
The Tuff Gong label is distributed by Universal Music through Island Records.
Tuff Gong is the official Caribbean distributor of Warner Music Group, Universal Music Group, and Disney Music Group.

In Rockstar North's Grand Theft Auto IV, Tuff Gong is featured as one of the many radio stations. The station is dedicated to playing songs associated with Bob Marley, including tracks by his sons Stephen and Damian, who is also known as Jr. Gong.

Tuff Gong is a full-service recording studio located in Kingston, Jamaica. It was founded on Orange Street, but soon relocated to 56 Hope Road. The company subsequently moved to 220 Marcus Garvey Drive, where it continues to operate.

Tuff Gong includes a recording studio, mastering room, stamper room, pressing plant, cassette plant, wholesale record shop, booking agency, as well as offices for Rita Marley Music and Ghetto Youths International."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuff_Gong


Once again we can read hear that also this studio were move to different locations do this mean all the master tapes were move?


Now the album Legend Released in 8 May 1984 by Label: Island/Tuff Gong we can read:
"1. “One Love/People Get Ready” (Extended) [Remixed in 1984 by Julian Mendelsohn]
2. “Waiting in Vain” [Remixed in 1984 By Julian Mendelsohn]
3. “Jamming” [Remixed in 1984 by Paul “Groucho” Smykle]
4. “Three Little Birds” (Dub Version) [Remixed in 1985 by Julian Mendelsohn]
5. “Could You Be Loved” [Mixed in 1980 by Errol Brown and Alex Sadkin]
6. “No Woman No Cry” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
7. “Coming in from the Cold” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
8. “Buffalo Soldier” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
9. “Jamming” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
10. “Waiting in Vain” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
11. “Exodus” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
12. “Lively Up Yourself” [Remixed in 1984 by Eric “ET” Thorngren]
13. “One Love/People Get Ready” (Dub Version) [Remixed in 1984 by Godwin Logie]"
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2010/03/03/bob-marley-legend-reissue-rarities-edition/


What do these remix mean? Also i wonder if the album Legend is a remaster or maybe we can say a copy of the original studio albums, how do Eric Thorngren and the other guys get these studio albums master tapes? i mean were all the studio albums used to made Legend located in USA or were they move by ship or aircraft to usa from Jamaica or UK? or are tha master tapes used to make Legend just copies of the original first studio albums of Bob Marley?

Or maybe the original are lost like the Kind of Blue of Miles? but at least Kind of blue had a copy or a alternative master (what do that mean i dont know?) MFSL made a direct remastering of kind ob blue from this alternative master as i belive just like MFSL also did a remastering of the album EXODUS of Bob Marley;

now was that the first original EXODUS master tape? or a copy of that first master tape, that exist in USA?

Regards
 
HDOM

HDOM

Audioholic Intern
I agreed with you what i did is i took all the tracks of the Legend from the studio albums remaster by Diament and it sound great.
 
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