best subwoofer for under $500?

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  1. pddufrene Audioholic

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    My room is 20x15x9 and opens up into my dinning room which is 12x15x8 I'm gonna be pairing it with a Yamaha av receiver, and my pioneer surround sound speakers. I like listening to music with a lot of bass, and heavy metal. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks
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    Welcome! I'm thinking most will suggest 2 subs because of the open space. I'd suggest saving a bit over $1,000.
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    I didn't buy the matching sub that went with the pioneer speakers because I figured it wasn't going to give me much results with only 100 watts and a 8" woofer
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    That is 100% correct.
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    +1 on the Outlaw, if you can swing the extra cash. However, if you really can't spend over $500, a great option would be the Premier Acoustic PA-150. It doesn't go really deep, but it can play very loudly and is very appropriate for your budget, room, and listening material.
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    At this point in time I can't afford more than 500 and that's pushing it, I guess if worse come to worse I can hold off on buying a sub for now till I can get a better one later I don't want to buy something I'm going to regret later u know
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    If you miss the Outlaw sale, there's the SVS PB-1000 or the new VTF-MK2 by HSU.
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    +1

    Assuming $500 is the absolute max including shipping, I would unequivocally take the HSU VTF-1 MK2 for $477 delivered.

    CEA Standard 2 Meters SPL @ 32/40/50/63 Hz:
    $1200 B&W ASW-610XP: 96.1/101.5/105.9/108.9
    $700 Emotiva X-Ref 12: 99.1/103.5/107.6/108.5
    $1600 Klipsch SW-311: 102.6/105.3/108.6/111.4
    $769 SVS PB12-NSD: 105.9/106.5/107.3/108.0
    $300 BIC PL-200: 102.5/107.7/110.4/108.1 (HSU STF-2 clone)
    $4000 Velodyne DD15+: 102.0/109.0/109.0/112.0
    $900 Aperion Bravus II 12D: 105.3/109.8/112.6/112.2
    $879 Velodyne EQ-MAX15: 104.2/110.0/114.2/114.8
    $1,200 RBH SX-12: 108/111.1/113.7/112.7
    $650 Outlaw LFM-1EX: 110.7/112.3/113.7/113.8
    $800 Power Sound XV15: 109.6/113.7/116.6/114.7
    $1200 SVS PB12+: 111.5/114.3/115.3/115.3
    $800 Epik Empire: 109.7/113.2/116.4/119.2
    $1700 Funk FW12X: 112.4/114.0/113.9/113.1
    $9,000 Paradigm Sig Sub2: 109.9/113.2/116.9/120.2
    $2200 JL Audio F112: 112.4/116.2/113.3/117.6
    $900 Hsu VTF-15H: 113.0/115.7/115.7/115.6
    $5,000 Velodyne DD18+: 113.0/115.8/116.8/115.3
    $2,000 SVS PB13 Ultra: 115.5/117.5/117.8/116.6
    $1,100 Chase HT VS18.1: 116.0/118.1/117.8/117.2
    $1,200 Rythmik FV15HP: 117.0/119.5/119.1/118.8
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    Why unequivocally? There is no test data on the HSU VTF-1 MK2 to show it as any better than SVS PB-1000. According to teh Canadian SVS rep, the PB-1000 is rated for 103 dB RMS @ 20 Hz via CEA-2010 outdoors at 2 meters ground plane.



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    Both are 10" though. The PB-1000 has a higher RMS, but the VTF-1 has higher peak amp power - not sure if that would even make a difference, but I don't think either of these will move enough air to handle a fairly large room. When I had my gen 1 PB-10 in a big room it sounded great, but couldn't handle the space.
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    That is a rather large room. No single sub in the $500 price will be able to do much with this room. May be two of them might.
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    Why unequivocally?

    $700 Emotiva X-Ref 12: 99.1/103.5/107.6/108.5

    $769 SVS PB12-NSD: 105.9/106.5/107.3/108.0

    $300 BIC PL-200: 102.5/107.7/110.4/108.1 (HSU STF-2 clone)

    Because the HSU STF-2/ BIC PL-200 is equivocally better than the SVS PB12-NSD. :D
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    Let me rephrase the question again.... :D Hint pay attention to the bolded text.

    There is no test data on the HSU VTF-1 MK2 to show it as any better than SVS PB-1000. According to tehe Canadian SVS rep, the PB-1000 is rated for 103 dB RMS @ 20 Hz via CEA-2010 outdoors at 2 meters ground plane.
    3db,
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    I was looking at and reading reviews of the SVS PB1000 and everyone I read its hard to find any complaints, I'm gonna check into the HSU and see what they are about. Thanks
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    While they may not 100% handle that room, I don't think you'll be disappointed with either of them. Both are excellent manufacturers.
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    What is "rated" is one thing, what is measured is another. And yes, we don't have measurement of either VTF-1 MK2 or PB-1000.

    Based on the data of BIC PL-200/HSU STF2 vs PB12-NSD, I would say:

    STF2 > PB12NSD
    MK2 > STF2
    PB12NSD > PB1000

    Therefore, MK2 > PB1000.
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    STF-2 only goes to 25Hz and really not much below that. PB12 goes to 18Hz and will likely do 25Hz with a lot more authority than the STF-2, so this isn't telling the entire story and is not how I would compare these particular subs.
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