Affordable Accuracy Loudspeakers

[fuzz092888]

The Affordable Accuracy Loudspeakers (AAL's) are now available for purchase and at a very reasonable cost. Pretty good idea considering Christmas is right around the corner

Philharmonic Audio

 

[Adam]

Makes me wish that I'd read that thread about these. I'm absolutely intrigued, but I'm still happy with mine and like the looks of what I have better. That said, these sure seem like a sweet upgrade to base model Pioneers for that price! How much is shipping (sorry if it's listed and I missed it)?

 

[fuzz092888]

Makes me wish that I'd read that thread about these. I'm absolutely intrigued, but I'm still happy with mine and like the looks of what I have better. That said, these sure seem like a sweet upgrade to base model Pioneers for that price! How much is shipping (sorry if it's listed and I missed it)?

AFAIK shipping is done on a per customer basis. Distance from Dennis who is on the East coast will be a factor, but they are fairly light so it shouldn't be too bad.

 

[zieglj01]

I heard about them - a subjective review
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/loudspeakers/87887-murphyblaster-pioneer-bs22-dna-speaker.html

 

[Dennis Murphy]

I think my webmeister kind of jumped the gun on these. We still have to iron out some issues with the plots that have been posted. Stay tuned for another take. But the general description and prices are correct.

 

[zieglj01]

I think my webmeister kind of jumped the gun on these. We still have to iron out some issues with the plots that have been posted. Stay tuned for another take. But the general description and prices are correct.

I was wandering why I could only find them via the link - because I tried to find them by
going straight to the sight. Also, the +/- 3 db in the details did not look right.

 

[Dennis Murphy]

I was wandering why I could only find them via the link - because I tried to find them by
going straight to the sight. Also, the +/- 3 db in the details did not look right.

The db tolerance that is given is correct. Although most of the response lies within a +/- 1 dB window, I was allowing for a roll-off in certain rooms of -3dB at the very bottom end, and also for some peaks and dips that would occur with the grills in place.

 

[monkish54]

I am currently using a pair of BS-22's as surrounds with my Philharmonic 2's in my "theater". Since rears and fronts seldom handle the same content, they sound fine to me. I don't notice any issue with the rear channels. I have also tried to use a BS-22 ( I have two pairs) as a center and it sounds terrible compared to the Philharmonics. Phantom, while not perfect, sounds much, much better to me than a BS-22 in front. I just might end up buying another DM speaker because a fairly neutral center for $90 is impossible to beat and truly insane - especially if it matches better than my BS-22.

 

[ReUpRo]

Mr. Garcia should pick up a pair and A-B them with the stock pair .

 

[j_garcia]

Mr. Garcia should pick up a pair and A-B them with the stock pair .

Now that I have the 52s to replace my 22s in the second setup, I may just send my 22s over to Dennis for the mod Then I wouldn't be able to A/B though...so maybe I'll just pick a pair up because I've been curious about them ever since he first discussed the mod for the 52s.

So can we actually order them now Dennis?

 

[zieglj01]

Now that I have the 52s to replace my 22s in the second setup, I may just send my 22s over to Dennis for the mod Then I wouldn't be able to A/B though...so maybe I'll just pick a pair up because I've been curious about them ever since he first discussed the mod for the 52s.

Then you can sell your stock BS22 - cheaper to buy the complete set from him

 

[monkish54]

I think my webmeister kind of jumped the gun on these. We still have to iron out some issues with the plots that have been posted. Stay tuned for another take. But the general description and prices are correct.

Dennis re-posts the on-axis measurement and it looks like this:

 

[zieglj01]

If that is the case - then I will change my mind - there is an older Andrew Jones
designed Pioneer, the SDF-1K - however, only 1 available at this time on Ebay > A
good price for $100 > I use to own the SDF-2K and the SDF series is nice - The 2k
had a 10 element crossover inside. Also, the SDF series sold for more than the Pio
phase (1) and phase (2) Pioneer speakers. > There were 3 different bookshelf pairs
with 5, 6 and 8 inch woofers - from $179 to $299. The center $189 - Sub $399.
S-DF2-K - ISO-Drive Bookshelf Loudspeaker (Pair) | Pioneer Electronics USA

Picture of SDF-1K >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew with the series >>>>>>>>>>>> center >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10" Subwoofer

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[TheStalker]

Isn't this project a bit of a waste of time?

 

[monkish54]

Isn't this project a bit of a waste of time?

Please don't sour this thread...

 

[TheStalker]

Please don't sour this thread...

 

[fuzz092888]

Isn't this project a bit of a waste of time?

Why do you ask?

 

[Dennis Murphy]

Dennis re-posts the on-axis measurement and it looks like this:

View attachment 12813

I've checked and rechecked my measurements, and I swear there is no dip at 62 Hz. It appears that I've completely bought out all of the Pioneers from my supply source, along with the tweeters. They hope to get them back in by Monday, and then I can fill more orders. I'm selling lots more of these $150 speakers than my $3500 jobs. Go figure.

 

[slipperybidness]

I'm selling lots more of these $150 speakers than my $3500 jobs. Go figure.

Whatever pays the bills

 

[its phillip]

Isn't this project a bit of a waste of time?

Maybe to you.

Clearly it's not a waste to everybody else in the thread, nor is it a waste to the people buying the speakers.