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    Default DIY Sealed 15" or 18"??

    I am looking to do a pair of sealed either 15" or 18" subs for my HT to replace my ED A2-300's. I am trying to decide whether to do a pair of 15" Titanics or the RS series 18" from parts express? Which will yield more output and better SQ? I know the excusion on the Titanics is better than the RS but the 18" is larger in size....What do you guys think? I am likely going with another of the flat packs from DIYSoundgroup after the ease of construction on the sealed 10" subs project that I am currently in process on. Do you have another other suggestions for drivers in a sealed box. My Max Budget for each driver is $250 a driver.

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    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    The HO is definite winner.

    Data-Bass

    You will get usable bass very deep if you build the box properly and place them optimally. With dual subs you'll be capable of reference peak in room at 20hz.
    Fronts:Madisound RB Kits Rears and Sides: Kef 2001.2, Subwoofer: TC Tiger-1000
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    Wow. And just when I thought I was out of hobby projects. I was considering buying a second sub for my system. I currently use a single EMPTek 1010i (Dual 10, ported). Based on that article, that's a $400 dollar sub, which is also about what I could buy another EMP 1010i for. I'm a fairly handy DIYer, so, which is the better option? Another EMPTek 1010i or building this bad boy? Does the pice tag include the amp or just the driver?

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    I was leaning toward the 18" subs.....for an easy DIY option this is the box I will be using. 4.5 cu ft Subwoofer box - Subwoofer Cabinets - Flat Packs DIY Sound Group Any other suggestions on 18" subs in a similar price range?
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Actran View Post
    Wow. And just when I thought I was out of hobby projects. I was considering buying a second sub for my system. I currently use a single EMPTek 1010i (Dual 10, ported). Based on that article, that's a $400 dollar sub, which is also about what I could buy another EMP 1010i for. I'm a fairly handy DIYer, so, which is the better option? Another EMPTek 1010i or building this bad boy? Does the pice tag include the amp or just the driver?
    Either of these subs would pretty much own the EMPTek. We are talking a DIY sub vs a commercial sub from a non sub-oriented company.

    You would need to purchase a pro amp which is around 300 dollars, but you can drive 2 subs with one pro amp.
    Fronts:Madisound RB Kits Rears and Sides: Kef 2001.2, Subwoofer: TC Tiger-1000
    Receiver:Onkyo NR-708 Amp: Behringer EP4000 Players: Panasonic BDP-60, Onkyo DX-C390 Projector: Epson 8350 Screen: FAVI PD-HD-92

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    That's like trying to get decent sound in a public lavatory.-TLS Guy

    Heck, if you've got the cash, go the NSA supercomputer route and use Fluorinert- Adam

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    4.5 sounds like a good tuning for the Dayton, but make sure you stuff it with Mineral Wool. You'll need to wrap the mineral wool with cloth.
    Fronts:Madisound RB Kits Rears and Sides: Kef 2001.2, Subwoofer: TC Tiger-1000
    Receiver:Onkyo NR-708 Amp: Behringer EP4000 Players: Panasonic BDP-60, Onkyo DX-C390 Projector: Epson 8350 Screen: FAVI PD-HD-92

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    Heck, if you've got the cash, go the NSA supercomputer route and use Fluorinert- Adam

    A shovel of dirt can stop a flood. -Westom

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    Will the polyfill that PE sells work fine???
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff R. View Post
    Will the polyfill that PE sells work fine???
    Roxul Rockboard 60 Single Pieces

    Only 12 bucks and more effective than polyfill typically.

    If you want to cheap out then just use an old pillow or two. Make sure the vent on the back of the driver can breath and you should be fine.
    Fronts:Madisound RB Kits Rears and Sides: Kef 2001.2, Subwoofer: TC Tiger-1000
    Receiver:Onkyo NR-708 Amp: Behringer EP4000 Players: Panasonic BDP-60, Onkyo DX-C390 Projector: Epson 8350 Screen: FAVI PD-HD-92

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    That's like trying to get decent sound in a public lavatory.-TLS Guy

    Heck, if you've got the cash, go the NSA supercomputer route and use Fluorinert- Adam

    A shovel of dirt can stop a flood. -Westom

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    OP,

    What size is your room. Another option is to go with four sealed Dayton 15" DVC 385-88. They are $119 each shipped. Two of these subs will model about the same as a single Dayton 18" HO, but the benefit would be having four subs vs two giving your smoother bass response.

    Just an option to consider.

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    My room is very large....it is about 20' by 40' with 12' ceilings....however it can be closed off and is generally closed when I am watching movies. The biggest issue with 4 subs that I see is running the wires all the way back to the far wall. Not to mention building 4 boxes vs 2 boxes will significantly increase my budget cost and also I would assume I would need another amp to power them all.
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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