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    Hello to all,
    I am considering the purchase of a second Epik Legend used, I purchased my original new and am very pleased with it, my room is 14' X 16' and open at the rear to a computer room. Like I said I am really impressed with the single Legend but after spending so much time here I think dual subs would be more appropriate. I was inititially going to sell the Legend and get an Empire but thought that two smaller subs would be better than one bigger one. I was going to buy new but got an offer on a mint Legend for $350 shipped. I would appreciate all thoughts and suggestions from all. Thanks.
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    If you're satisfied with the bass you get with the legend I'd say pick up another. Having two of the things can only give you better, more even bass across the listening positions. I'd think you'd need at least two of the legends anyways if the room is open to another. That is, unless you feel like getting two empires
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    Agreed, if you are happy with 1 then 2 can be very nice! At that price of $350 it's really a no-brainer haha!!

    However, just placing 2 subs in a room won't give you better bass for sure. You need to make sure both subs are properly located & setup in order to get improved bass over a single sub. In fact, 2 badly placed subs can sound worse than 1 sub due to frequency cancellation even if 1 of the subs is placed wrong. So if you get the second Legend, MAKE SURE to do the bass crawl & locate 2 good spots not just 1. Then make sure you test each of the phase combination options to make sure that the subs are helping eachother out & not fighting against eachother. It can take a lot of trial & error but dual subs can resp some very nice improvements over a single sub!!!

    I had dual identical subs previously. I found out that 1 was in a null & was hurting the overall bass. I moved it to a better spot I found, adjusted the phase & it was a night/day improvement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahblaza View Post
    Hello to all,
    I am considering the purchase of a second Epik Legend used, I purchased my original new and am very pleased with it, my room is 14' X 16' and open at the rear to a computer room. Like I said I am really impressed with the single Legend but after spending so much time here I think dual subs would be more appropriate. I was inititially going to sell the Legend and get an Empire but thought that two smaller subs would be better than one bigger one. I was going to buy new but got an offer on a mint Legend for $350 shipped. I would appreciate all thoughts and suggestions from all. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timoteo View Post
    Agreed, if you are happy with 1 then 2 can be very nice! At that price of $350 it's really a no-brainer haha!!

    However, just placing 2 subs in a room won't give you better bass for sure. You need to make sure both subs are properly located & setup in order to get improved bass over a single sub. In fact, 2 badly placed subs can sound worse than 1 sub due to frequency cancellation even if 1 of the subs is placed wrong. So if you get the second Legend, MAKE SURE to do the bass crawl & locate 2 good spots not just 1. Then make sure you test each of the phase combination options to make sure that the subs are helping eachother out & not fighting against eachother. It can take a lot of trial & error but dual subs can resp some very nice improvements over a single sub!!!

    I had dual identical subs previously. I found out that 1 was in a null & was hurting the overall bass. I moved it to a better spot I found, adjusted the phase & it was a night/day improvement!

    Let us know your choice, post some pics & give us your impressions!!...you know your gonna get it
    Thanks Timo for chiming in my friend, I see a lot of setups where dual subs are located in opposite corners of the front wall, (good or no), I'm not ashamed to say that I am fairly ignorant of placing dual subs or have the energy at my age to be crawling around and trial and erroring. I did do that somewhat with the single Legend and was pretty easy to find the best spot and phase at 0. That spot was near the right front corner with right driver about 20" angled from the wall. Would it not be OK to do that on the opposite left front wall? I probably as you say should try moving the second Legend around maybe out into the room and playing with the phase. Any suggestions how to start this process ( take into account my ignorance)? you are right I'm gonna get it, I need help though. Thanks again Timo.
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    Timo, I will do some research in the interim.

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    Well if crawling around is tough then try a few things. You say the Legend is currently in the front right corner so try placing the second sub in the rear left corner. A lot of times having the subs across the room in opposite corners is good. Or try both up front in front left & right corners. If you don't want to do the bass crawl then just try different configurations to see which sounds best. EVERY room is different so there is no saying where to put it without seeing the room. Lots of variables!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by timoteo View Post
    Well if crawling around is tough then try a few things. You say the Legend is currently in the front right corner so try placing the second sub in the rear left corner. A lot of times having the subs across the room in opposite corners is good. Or try both up front in front left & right corners. If you don't want to do the bass crawl then just try different configurations to see which sounds best. EVERY room is different so there is no saying where to put it without seeing the room. Lots of variables!!
    I hear you brother, I will put some effort into this as you say there is a lot of variables, but the one constant is my ears and I will adjust accordingly.
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    Thanks John, appreciate. I know where you have your Empire in your room, if you had another Empire, with your experience with Epik's where would you start to place your second Empire? I realize this is an unrealistic question but would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
    Jeff

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