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    Arrow SV Sound PB-12NSD Subwoofer Preview

    The new SVS PB-12NSD subwoofer features a custom designed 12" aluminum cone driver with a 4" flared port and 400 watt continuous rated power amplifier. It maintains a relatively compact form factor (at least as far as big box subwoofers go) with true 20Hz extension. Utilizing a high quality drive unit with a meaty amplifier in an inert and soundly engineered enclosure, the PB-12NSD offers a level of performance not typically found at this price point. This preview article gives a glimpse of the PB-12NSD performance capabilities with real CEA 2010 measurement data. We look forward to conducting a formal review of what we feel will be the subwoofer to beat in the under $1k price category.


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    Awesome!!! Thanks for including preliminary test data in the preview. I am close to buying a new sub for my HT setup and was waiting to see how this would stack against the LFM-1 EX. Now if we can only get you guys to test an FV12

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    Looks awesome, can't wait to see the full review.
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    FYI: the table caption says "Max Output Mode – all ports open," yet the listing for the EX figures appear to be the one port open extended mode. The EX would look even more favorable from 25hz on up if the max output mode figures had been listed.

    Meanwhile, I look forward to reading the full review

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    Quote Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post
    FYI: the table caption says "Max Output Mode – all ports open," yet the listing for the EX figures appear to be the one port open extended mode. The EX would look even more favorable from 25hz on up if the max output mode figures had been listed.

    Meanwhile, I look forward to reading the full review
    Good catch, Cel! Wouldn't that mean that the EX would look less impressive down to 20hz and below though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post
    FYI: the table caption says "Max Output Mode – all ports open," yet the listing for the EX figures appear to be the one port open extended mode. The EX would look even more favorable from 25hz on up if the max output mode figures had been listed.

    Meanwhile, I look forward to reading the full review

    You're right, I mistakenly posted the 18Hz tune mode data for the Outlaw. I went back and updated the article with the 25Hz data. The SVS PB-12NSD now has a +3.5dB advantage at 20Hz but the Outlaw LFM-1EX has about a +4dB advantage above 40Hz.
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    The numbers posted don't appear to represent what Svs previosuly released in their CEDA data for the pb12 nsd? Going back and forth from one thread to another there appears to be some confusion...at least to me.

    Here are ED's numbers>

    10/NA/NA/Insufficient SNR
    12.5/89.1/15.2/Limited by 3rd Order Harmonic
    16/99.0/19.0/Limited by 3rd Order Harmonic
    20/107.5/10.4/Amp Limited
    25/110.3/12.1/Amp Limited
    31.5/111.4/6.3/Amp Limited
    40/111.9/6.9/Amp Limited
    50/112.0/3.6/Amp Limited
    63/112.3/3.5/Amp Limited
    80/112.8/3.4/Amp Limited

    yet in the preview article of the same sub the numbers look to be about 3dbs short across the entire bandwith?

    20-104.5
    25-107.3
    32-108.4
    40-108.8
    50-109
    63-109.3


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    Quote Originally Posted by billy p View Post
    The numbers posted don't appear to represent what Svs previosuly released in their CEDA data for the pb12 nsd? Going back and forth from one thread to another there appears to be some confusion...at least to me.

    Here are ED's numbers>

    10/NA/NA/Insufficient SNR
    12.5/89.1/15.2/Limited by 3rd Order Harmonic
    16/99.0/19.0/Limited by 3rd Order Harmonic
    20/107.5/10.4/Amp Limited
    25/110.3/12.1/Amp Limited
    31.5/111.4/6.3/Amp Limited
    40/111.9/6.9/Amp Limited
    50/112.0/3.6/Amp Limited
    63/112.3/3.5/Amp Limited
    80/112.8/3.4/Amp Limited

    yet in the preview article of the same sub the numbers look to be about 3dbs short across the entire bandwith?

    20-104.5
    25-107.3
    32-108.4
    40-108.8
    50-109
    63-109.3
    You are comparing Peak (Ed's forum post) to RMS (my Preview article). My Preview article had all SPL's converted to RMS to be more inline with all data Josh Ricci publishes for us. It's also clearly noted in the article. I know this stuff can get confusing which is why I am a stickler for marking everything.
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    Any idea how the Axiom EP350 would compare? Similar specs (on paper) and for me the EP350 is at least $200 less expensive (free shipping to Hawaii).

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    It certainly fills the bill for bass. These lower price offerings are just getting better.
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