JL Audio Fathom f110 Subwoofer Review

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The JL Audio Fathom f110 may be small in size, but its not lacking in the performance department. While there are certainly much larger subs from other brands at the same price or less, you will be hard pressed to find all of the performance attributes the f110 has to offer in such a compact box. Not once did I find the f110s output lacking as they were always able to rattle my walls and shake my couches when the source material required it. It’s clear to me that JL Audio is as serious about high fidelity in the home environment as they have been in mobile audio since their inception. Bassaholics rejoice as JL Audio has produced a reference level product that will thump, and thump well, without requiring a refrigerator sized box that you neither have the space nor the accepting wife to accommodate.


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[Matt34]

I would so pimp one of these for the next three years of apartment living.


Great review!

[WmAx]

Originally Posted by Matt34

I would so pimp one of these for the next three years of apartment living.


Great review!

And to think... you are giving up those two incredible high performance W7 drivers in your awesome towers......

-Chris

[Matt34]

Originally Posted by WmAx

And to think... you are giving up those two incredible high performance W7 drivers in your awesome towers......

-Chris

Got this fixed but I still wouldn't mind having one of these subs

[bandphan]

It definitely bests the DD10 from velodyne in ouput. My little hgs10 plays nice and flat but doesn't have near the mid bass spl. Nice review for those looking for a compact high performance subwoofer.

[KODG]

I have two JL AUDIO F-113 & I won't trade them for any other subs period!!

[WmAx]

If people would get their heads out of their a**es and not be so intent on owning a 'name brand' sub, they could easily get JL Audio performance like this for pretty cheap. Discount sub retailer + local car audio shop to build a cabinet to specification + pro amp and DSP hardware = high end quality for medium end price. You can buy these high quality W7 drivers for reasonable prices. I'll tell you exactly how to have the box built at your local car audio shop and how to hook up the amp and what entries to make to your DCX2496 processor.

$500(including shipping) for a 12" W7 + $150 for a finished box from local car audio shop with your choice of stone finish or carpeting (if you want furniture grade wood finishes you will have to pay much more and have a cabinet shop make the box) + $300 for the amp + $250 for the processor = $1200 (almost 1/2 price) and it will be superior to the real deal, as the DCX DSP is far more capable than that included with the JL Audio pre-fabbed home sub and the DCX DSP can do much more in addition for your main speakers as well!

The pro amp suggested (EP2500) will still produce enough power, even when used with two of the subs, so you can add another box and driver ($650) and a single DCX can control up to 6 subs individually of each other.

Or people can continue to waste money buying lower performance pre-fabbed subs....

-Chris

[captiankirk28]

Originally Posted by WmAx

If people would get their heads out of their a**es and not be so intent on owning a 'name brand' sub, they could easily get JL Audio performance like this for pretty cheap. Discount sub retailer + local car audio shop to build a cabinet to specification + pro amp and DSP hardware = high end quality for medium end price. You can buy these high quality W7 drivers for reasonable prices. I'll tell you exactly how to have the box built at your local car audio shop and how to hook up the amp and what entries to make to your DCX2496 processor.

$500(including shipping) for a 12" W7 + $150 for a finished box from local car audio shop with your choice of stone finish or carpeting (if you want furniture grade wood finishes you will have to pay much more and have a cabinet shop make the box) + $300 for the amp + $250 for the processor = $1200 (almost 1/2 price) and it will be superior to the real deal, as the DCX DSP is far more capable than that included with the JL Audio pre-fabbed home sub and the DCX DSP can do much more in addition for your main speakers as well!

The pro amp suggested (EP2500) will still produce enough power, even when used with two of the subs, so you can add another box and driver ($650) and a single DCX can control up to 6 subs individually of each other.

Or people can continue to waste money buying lower performance pre-fabbed subs....

-Chris

Hey Chris i am going to be geting some money in a bit and i want to build one of the W7 sub so if it is ok i will be getting ahold of you for help, to build and for the settings on the DCX.

Sorry for high jacking: Kirk

[bandphan]

Originally Posted by mike c

on a related note ... Craigsub has this standing challenge that he will buy THE DIY subwoofer that will outperform the JL F113 for 3000 bucks provided the conditions below are met

Quote:Originally Posted by craigsub
Manville is correct.

It is ridiculous to have to continue to tolerate these meaningless posts from people who have never even auditioned a Fathom, and who have no interest in one, either.

This trend to poke fun at people buying the Fathom for "having more money than sense" and the constant claims of "I could build a sub with twice the performance for half the price" gets really old.

When called upon to prove it, of course there is a plethora of excuses why the DIY guru cannot do so. I particularly like the "I cannot afford to build you a subwoofer" excuse. Afterall, based on the claims, I would be doubling the DIY guy's money when purchasing the sub from him.

In fact, I will go one step further ... if someone takes on this challenge, I will pay the shipping to get it here for testing.

Here is the deal ... It was said the one could build a DIY sub for half the money of a Fathom and it would deliver twice the perfomance, too.

1. We need someone who can build a sub that has the same dimensions as a 113, with the exception that one wall can be 1.7 inches larger in dimension.

2. It must deliver more performance than the 113 - but rather than double, we will call it 3 dB higher output from 16 to 80 Hz.

3. It must be finished to furniture quality standards, as the Fathom is. It does not have to be a Piano Gloss Black - A wood finish is also acceptable.

4. It must also have the necessary LT circuitry, and EQ, to allow it to be eq'ed flat to within +/- 3 dB in our room.

5. The cabinent can have no audible resonances.

If someone builds this sub, and posts pics of it beforehand, I will pay to have it shipped here.

If it meets the above criteria, and you can show receipts that you paid less than $1500 for everything required for the project, I will purchase it from you for $3000. However, if it fails in any way to achieve the above perfomance parameters, I keep the sub.

Diyers ... Here is your chance.





Has anyone taken that challenge yet?

[WmAx]

Originally Posted by bandphan

Quote:Originally Posted by craigsub
Manville is correct.

It is ridiculous to have to continue to tolerate these meaningless posts from people who have never even auditioned a Fathom, and who have no interest in one, either.

This trend to poke fun at people buying the Fathom for "having more money than sense" and the constant claims of "I could build a sub with twice the performance for half the price" gets really old.

If you apply this to me, I don't poke fun at anyone, not in any serious way. I don' t know about 'twice the performance' of the Fathom for 1/2 the price, I have never made any such claim as possible with a sealed cabinet of comparable size to the Fathom, but you can certainly build it's equal for about 1/2 or a bit more the price. There is no secret to this: you can buy a variant of the W7 13" driver JL used in the Fathom for about $600. You can build a virtual clone of the unit for just a tad over 1/2 the cost of the authorized retailer selling price of the Fathom 13", and the DIY will be superior because the DSP I will specify will be more powerful and have more capabilities to seamlessly integrate the subwoofer with the main speakers. Although, 'auto' setup feature will not be present - you will have to do manual setup instead. The amplification and processing hardware will be external, not internal to the sub, as I am not aware of an appropriate internal mounting set up for this subwoofer that is available to the general public.

You can even exceed the JL version if the person wants to go to a larger cabinet size and go ported; LF output will be dramatically increased and distortion radically reduced. If cabinet size is increased, one can even mount the pro-amp and processing unit into the cabinet.

When called upon to prove it, of course there is a plethora of excuses why the DIY guru cannot do so. I particularly like the "I cannot afford to build you a subwoofer" excuse. Afterall, based on the claims, I would be doubling the DIY guy's money when purchasing the sub from him.

This sounds so bold and impressive, but it's not. Why would anyone spend $1500-$1700 to build a sub and send it off to some person just to look superior on an internet post? How could the DIY version be any worse than the commercial one? You are using the same technology driver and using superior amplification and DSP hardware. You could even exceed it if an Audiopulse ULTRA LMS or AXIS driver was available in 13", but they are not, and it would be 'cheating' to use the 15" version against the 13" W7. But if you want to compare to the 12" Fathom, then there are 12" LMS ULTRA and AXIS drivers available - which are superior to the W7 drivers - as verified in Klippel analysis.

-Chris