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Arrow Dept. of Justice sides with RIAA in MP3 File-Sharing Lawsuit

The Bush administration officially sided with the RIAA in the latest file-sharing lawsuit. Jamie Thomas, a middle class single mom in Minnesota has been ordered to shell out $222,000 for making 24 MP3s available on Kazaa.


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Old 12-07-2007, 03:35 PM
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4 songs for $222,000!

Even thought there is no way to know how many times the songs were downloaded and passed on. You can download 24 songs legally from iTunes for $24. Somebody’s estimate of digital music value is seriously out of whack!
Well I could not disagree with you more. The point is not how much it costs one person to download the songs. Let's call those 24 songs two albums. The combined costs making & marketing 2 major release records is FAR more than a quarter of a million dollars. As noted in the article, they could have hit her with MUCH larger fines, based on the law as it is written.

While I have no doubt that there are MUCH bigger fish out there for the DOJ to pick on, the bottom line is that the poor "single mom" still broke the law. Music is not free - there are way too many kids right now (not to mention adults who should know better) that seem to think that you should not have to pay for music.
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You can download 24 songs legally from iTunes for $24...
I couldn't agree more with Birdonthebeach. Why didn't she just buy the songs if they're as cheap as quoted above? She deserves everything she gets.
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I cant believe either one of you. The riaa which is making billions comes along sues a women making 30k a year for some outrageous amount of money and it is ok with you guys. The people that actually made that music is not gonna get a dime of that money she has to pay. I think they should take each song that she downloaded and ask the artists if they want her to pay, if not then leave it alone. ITs the law, its the law blah blah, it is bull ****! Next they are gonna start suing children which will fall back on computer illiterate parents. But I am sure that is also fine with you guys. Before you know it the riaa will start to do public hangings to illegal down loaders. This downloading has not put any kind of dent in the pockets of the riaa or the artists. THe government is giving them 2 much power.

Also why not go after the people on the street corner botlegging music and making money, not the mom downloading 24 songs. This is like giving the casual in home pot smoker 30 years in jail.

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:11 PM
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This downloading has not put any kind of dent in the pockets of the riaa or the artists.
This is where you are dead wrong. It absolutely has put a dent in everyone's pocket involved, especially the artists - or those that are left with recording contracts.

The point is not this one woman, the point is that it is against the law to steal music, whether you are an individual or a sophisticated syndicate producing thousands of counterfeit discs.

And they certainly are going after the bootleggers. The media just loves to get the dramatic story of a helpless single mother who didn't know any better because it makes a great story - "Evil billionaire corporation sues single mom making 30k a year." Look - I am sorry for her. But to argue that stealing music is okay because the RIAA represents rich people or something to that effect is ridiculous.

Can anyone explain to me your rationale for the opinion that you should not have to pay for music?
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While I do feel the fine is steep, I don't disagree with the ruling. Unfortunately, I highly doubt it will curtail the practice.
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I have over 2200 MP3's @ 320 Kbps sampling, and bought them from Russia for 2 cents a meg. That means I payed anywhere from $1.97 to $4.00 an album.

Allofmp3.com is long gone, since the RIAA put them out of business. It took them several years though. At first the Rusckies told them to XXXX Off. But some big money, ie the RIAA, finally won.

Call me a thief, and XXXX, I don't care. Now I'm back to buying CD's from Amazon.com and still pay big bucks for concert tickets, T-shirts, etc.

Last time I checked, none of the popular artist I downloaded from Russia are starving.

I've never allowed anybody to use these MP3's, as I buy all my software, and think bit torrent users are the scum of the Earth
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Last time I checked, none of the popular artist I downloaded from Russia are starving.
That may be true, but does that make it right to steal their product?
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She uploaded the songs, doesn't say anything about her downloading any.


Regardless, I don't think the crime fits the punishment.
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She uploaded the songs, doesn't say anything about her downloading any.


Regardless, I don't think the crime fits the punishment.
Okay, so she's distributing not stealing. Whatever. And I agree - she got off pretty easy, considering what the max fine could have been....

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