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Old 08-15-2004, 02:06 AM
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Default Pioneer Elite sounds awesome

Just traded my 4 and a half month old Yamaha 1400 for a Pioneer Elite VSX-53TX at Tweeter ($750). The Pioneer blows away the Yamaha, and the Denon AVR3802 I had before the Yammy. Everything sounds great on it, cd's, high-rez discs (I have a Pio DV45-A), dvd's and high def cable. It is lush, full, warm, and gutsy. Compared to it, the Yamaha had a cheesy-sounding midrange, and ear-biting highs. With all due respect, my speakers (DCM TF600's) are a little bright and forward sounding, but with the Pioneer, they sound like really high end speakers. Never before have I just been able to play a cd and sit back and listen without critiquing the sound. Now I can relax and listen to music for hours. Pioneer's new models are just coming out (the one comparable to mine is the 54. Please listen to a Pioneer before buying anything else. By the way, I think it sounds a lot like H/K, but without the reliability problems.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:56 AM
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Just want to re-inforce the comments. I have bright detailed speakers as well (Canton Karat M60's) and the warmth of the pionneer VSX 53 can't be matched by anything in that price range and even above. I tried. And I had to be convinced pretty hard to consider pioneer. I tried the Denon 3805, the Yammy and and and. And even against my own will, WOW, I couldn;t resist the pioneer and it came in at a much lower price than the others I was considering. Pioneer should definitely be considered for you guys out there shopping for a receiver... Especially if you have chosed to match it up with bright speakers.
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Old 08-16-2004, 02:47 PM
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I've been reading great things about Pioneer AVReceivers.

Can you compare them to Marantz? Or NAD? (in sound quality)
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:56 PM
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Default Pioneer Elite

It is very hard to find a dealer that has NAD and Pioneer, or Marantz and Pioneer, or any combination of any 2. Just go to Tweeter, and listen to the Pioneer. Bring a couple of multichannel high-rez discs, a couple of cd's and a couple of dvd's with you. Be prepared to be blown away with any disc you throw at the Pioneer. You will think you are listening to a $4000 receiver. It's that good.
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I too own the Pioneer Elite VSX-53TX. I must say that I am very satisfied with this receiver. Before buying this receiver I was always left wanting more or thinking about which receiver I will buy next. I have owned mine for about 8 months and not once have I considered replacing it. (I suffer from upgrade-itis)
The user interface is very easy to navigate and use. I have also found that the MCACC is easy to use and is pretty accurate. After doing research on other brands I felt that this receiver just had more to offer for the price.

Pioneer has released the VSX-54TX to replace the 53TX. It adds component video upconversion and DPLIIx. If these features aren't important to you this is probably a good time to buy one on clearence.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:19 PM
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Just traded my 4 and a half month old Yamaha 1400 for a Pioneer Elite VSX-53TX at Tweeter ($750). The Pioneer blows away the Yamaha, and the Denon AVR3802 I had before the Yammy. Everything sounds great on it, cd's, high-rez discs (I have a Pio DV45-A), dvd's and high def cable. It is lush, full, warm, and gutsy. Compared to it, the Yamaha had a cheesy-sounding midrange, and ear-biting highs. With all due respect, my speakers (DCM TF600's) are a little bright and forward sounding, but with the Pioneer, they sound like really high end speakers. Never before have I just been able to play a cd and sit back and listen without critiquing the sound. Now I can relax and listen to music for hours. Pioneer's new models are just coming out (the one comparable to mine is the 54. Please listen to a Pioneer before buying anything else. By the way, I think it sounds a lot like H/K, but without the reliability problems.
What do you think is the reason for "cheesy-sounding midrange and ear biting highs"?
And what do you think is responsible for the pioneer blowing it away?
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Old 08-17-2004, 12:36 AM
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Perhaps the quality of the amps; I read somewhere that mosfet amps behave like vacuum tubes. I always thought that you couldn't have detailed home theater without having bright 2-channel. The Pioneer has convinced me otherwise. Go listen to it.
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Old 08-17-2004, 04:35 AM
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The quality of the amp? Any decent solid state power amp will not add a sound of its own.So unless there was something wrong with your Yamaha,the amp was not to blame for the bad sounds you experienced.
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:07 AM
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Default New model? When?

You mention that Pioneer has the new model, VSX54 I am assuming. Do you know when it will be available? Do you know where I can get info on it? Cant seem to find it on the pioneer site.

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Old 08-18-2004, 12:21 PM
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I just ordered the 54tx last week from www.expressaudiovideo.com for $729 best price I found...just having a hard time waiting for it to get here

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good mid priced speaker set up for this reciever? Currently using Infinity Minuette's and a Infinity BU-2 sub.
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