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Just watched this vid. The questions aren't in English but the answers are and one clearly states that Sony has stopped production of the 60gb model and is planning on leaving the 80gb model at the 599 price point. So get your 60gb while you can.

Seems like a really stupid move after seeing what the price cut has done for sales. It almost seems like they should release the 20gb model again at the 400 dollar price point.

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Apparently the plan is to keep the 60GB model at $499 til it's gone, then introduce the 80GB model back at $599, which will include Motorstorm.

The 80GB model will have lower PS2 compatibility. The hardware in the 80GB model will be essentially the same as the current European model - in other words, the PS2 "emotion engine" that was placed in the original PS3 for 100% compatibility with PS2 games is gone. The 80GB PS3 will use a software emulator that will not be compatible with all PS2 games, the same way the XBox 360 is not compatible with all XBox games.
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Sony isn't stupid enough to pull the 60gb off the shelf, they just wanted to get them out there hence the price cut. Then they can hike the price back up by adding a game and 20 extra gb of harddrive space. We will see if this will actually happen though as if the PS3 keeps selling this well Sony might be reluctant to bring back up the price.
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Sony isn't stupid enough to pull the 60gb off the shelf, they just wanted to get them out there hence the price cut. Then they can hike the price back up by adding a game and 20 extra gb of harddrive space. We will see if this will actually happen though as if the PS3 keeps selling this well Sony might be reluctant to bring back up the price.
Sony would be stupid to sell both a 60GB and a partially-gimped 80GB unit at the same time, with the partially-gimped 80GB unit at a $100 premium

Sony is stupid.

But, still, the president of SCEE said that the 60GB PS3s should all be gone by the end of the month in the US (even though he's a part of Sony Europe), to be replaced by the 80GB unit.

"Reeves goes on to say that SCEA marked it down to move and that once it's gone, it's gone. When asked for the dreaded confirmation as to if this was the end of the 60GB model, Reeves replied "In America, yes." "

I think this is the only way to move forward. It would certainly be best to replace the 60GB model with the 80GB model and maintain the $499 price point, but it doesn't look like they're going to do that.
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Even with the upswing in sales due to the price drop, I don't think the 60G will sell out right away. My feeling is this is true though, since they already said they don't want to produce the unit with the emotion engine any longer.

Note too that Amazon is offering 1 free BD movie (Memento) and the Blu-Ray remote bundled for $499 for the 60G.
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When I first heard the announcement I assumed, like many others I am sure, that there would be two models a 60 and 80 with both models being gimped (lack of emotion chip) at two different price points. Re-raising the price point after a drop is a bad decision.
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When I first heard the announcement I assumed, like many others I am sure, that there would be two models a 60 and 80 with both models being gimped (lack of emotion chip) at two different price points. Re-raising the price point after a drop is a bad decision.
Maybe they are lying about the price increase with the 80GB version in order to encourage people to buy out the 60GB ones, but it wouldn't surprise me either way.

I just don't see them trying to sell 60GB $499 versions alongside gimped 80GB versions at a $100 premium.
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I agree about the 60/80 comparision the game can be had for $30 and you can get 100 gig of HD space for less than that extra price increase. Also with news like this Sony won't be able to increase prices on the PS3. If MS actually drops the 360 price below that of the Wii I could see Sony having to make another price cut and Nintendo being forced to do the same.
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MS already said at E3 they would not be dropping the price of the 360. The rumors were false. There is no way with the losses they are facing in the gaming division that they would take a $100 price drop. $20-$30 maybe, but not likely until the holidays since summer is traditionally the slow period.
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While I should actually get working I haven't yet but I did find this interesting article. Looks like we are going to have one of those price drop or no price drop situations until something actually happens with the $500 price point and the 60gb unit.
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