Audioholics Home Theater Forums
store.audioholics.com EMPTek.com BlueJeansCable.com Emotiva.com VisualApex.com Yamaha.com/yec SpectraCal.com MonoPrice.com

Go Back   Audioholics Home Theater Forums > Home Theater Hardware Hangout > CD/DVD/Blu-ray & Misc Hardware
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-25-2005, 05:54 PM
gene's Avatar
gene gene is online now
Supreme Overlord
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,955
Thanks: 218
Thanked 482 Times in 297 Posts
gene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened to
Default APC Power Conditioners with Battery Back Up

[apc]American Power Conversion (APC) today announced availability of their new S-line of power conditioning battery backup models designed exclusively for the high performance home audio/video (A/V) and custom electronic installer market. The new APC S10 and S15 A/V Power Conditioners with Battery Backup help eliminate power anomalies as a threat to component hardware, A/V signal integrity, and system availability.



[Read the Press Release]

__________________
Gene DellaSala
President, Audioholics
Pursuing the truth in audio & video...
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 05-25-2005, 09:53 PM
HookedOnSound's Avatar
HookedOnSound HookedOnSound is offline
Full Audioholic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: ON, Canada
Posts: 337
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
HookedOnSound is gaining some recognition
Default

It's nice to see APC offer products in this market segment (A/V).

This might sound like an endorsement but as an APC customer I have always trusted APC in my data center and I am confident that APC will offer competent products for audiophiles. I am sure these products will service ppl for years.

They aren't the cheapest solutions for sure but I honestly can't remember the last failed unit (APC) under my responsibility.

The only thing I would note is that going with a battery backup means that you have to treat the batteries as a consumable, I have run in to alot of ppl in IT who just don't seem to understand the concept.

You're covered for the first 2 years under the wrty but after that you have to buy battery replacement kits.

As an example, we have a 5 yr old APC unit and have replaced the batteries twice so far so we are quite pleased with the performance considering the unit was slightly undersized for its application. Unit load is also a determining factor.

Aluminum finish (S10/S15)! Awesome!

Thanks for posting the article.

P.S. they also have a very good recycling program, free shipping in the USA for used batteries if I am not mistaken.
__________________
KL

CD Player : Panasonic DVD-F87
Receiver : Harman Kardon AVR 235
Subwoofer : Paradigm PDR-10
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 05-25-2005, 11:26 PM
gene's Avatar
gene gene is online now
Supreme Overlord
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,955
Thanks: 218
Thanked 482 Times in 297 Posts
gene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened to
Default

We have had several discussions with the design engineers at APC on these products. All we can say is they appear to be snake oil free. Note the UL markings on the backpanels. This is very rare for power conditioners and we are noticing there is just as much snake oil in this area of home theater as there is in cables. We plan on cracking this wide open in the future Stay tuned....
__________________
Gene DellaSala
President, Audioholics
Pursuing the truth in audio & video...
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 05-26-2005, 12:14 AM
Takeereasy's Avatar
Takeereasy Takeereasy is offline
Audioholic General
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,283
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Takeereasy is gaining some recognition
Default

You guys are busy little beavers. I too am a big fan of APC products. We use their uninteruptable power supplies at my office. Those things are built like tanks and I've never seen one fail, and had to use them three or four times. Being at a desk next to one when the battery starts to go is damn annoying though. It's nice to hear that they seem to be carrying that quality over to HT. My power bar is an APC model as well, no UPS though.
__________________
"I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing"
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 05-26-2005, 04:07 PM
claudermilk claudermilk is offline
Full Audioholic
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 283
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
claudermilk is a forum member in good standing
Default

I'd be truly amazed to find any snake oil in an APC product. We use a ton of them here & have never had a single problem. Now I wonder if they have something a bit more affordable for a more modest HT system.
Reply With Quote

  #6  
Old 05-26-2005, 04:20 PM
Mort Corey Mort Corey is offline
Senior Audioholic
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Temecula, CA
Posts: 608
Thanks: 3
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Mort Corey is gaining some recognition
Default

Is the base unit the top piece and the two lower units the optional additional power packs? Any idea what the backup time rating might be? It'd be nice (for me anyway) to just have five or ten minutes to be able to shut things down properly in a blackout.

Mort
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 05-27-2005, 12:07 AM
Shadow_Ferret's Avatar
Shadow_Ferret Shadow_Ferret is offline
Audioholic Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 884
Thanks: 10
Thanked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Shadow_Ferret is gaining some recognition
Default

Wow. $1200? Why can I get a good UPS unit for my computer for a 6th that price?
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 05-27-2005, 12:12 AM
gene's Avatar
gene gene is online now
Supreme Overlord
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,955
Thanks: 218
Thanked 482 Times in 297 Posts
gene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened togene should be listened to
Default

Quote:
Now I wonder if they have something a bit more affordable for a more modest HT system.
They do, for around $400 with no battery backup. I will post the press release tomorrow.
__________________
Gene DellaSala
President, Audioholics
Pursuing the truth in audio & video...
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 06-04-2005, 11:56 PM
HookedOnSound's Avatar
HookedOnSound HookedOnSound is offline
Full Audioholic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: ON, Canada
Posts: 337
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
HookedOnSound is gaining some recognition
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_Ferret
Wow. $1200? Why can I get a good UPS unit for my computer for a 6th that price?
Most computer grade UPS have square/modified square sine wave output waveforms. Although perfectly acceptable for most computer based applications, there are some equipment that will perform poorly or simply not work at all.

Pure sine wave UPSes use better quality inverters to regenerate an AC waveform with utmost fidelity.

Factors such VA rating, rated current, etc. that are also important and affect price as you go to higher application needs. That is why it's important to size your UPS accordingly for its intended use.
__________________
KL

CD Player : Panasonic DVD-F87
Receiver : Harman Kardon AVR 235
Subwoofer : Paradigm PDR-10
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 06-06-2005, 01:08 PM
philh philh is offline
Full Audioholic
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 289
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
philh is a forum member in good standing
Default

Are power conditioners worth the "overhead" power costs? Of course as I sit here wondering how much the recent power outage (thunderstorms) will cost me a year from now, as equipment begins failing. Will a power conditioner stop spikes from passing through? I kinda came into possession of a power conditioner designed for an old DEC mini computer. Don't remember the brand or any other details other then it uses a 20amp twist lock 120V cord. Also tested it once and it pulls 150w just sitting there. Thing is physically very heavy.
Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:41 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2007 AUDIOHOLICS, LLC