I don't know how "reliable" this is but...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1236475
This would bother me much more than "rising black levels" that's why I am trying to decide on The 58" V10 and 65" S1 at the moment. (I'll be 14' from the TV)
I am starting to believe that ignorance
is bliss.
Ah, thanks. I can see why you would want the older gen here. Was this a band-aid to stem all the FUD over something that 99.999% of the population would never notice?
I read several pages, and I will try to read more later. While I believe this is measurable with equipment, I honestly wonder how much of this is FUD, misdiagnoses, overblowing, and well you know.
If there is truly a big spike, then yeah, that would suck awfully. I mean, big, where there is absolutely no doubt about it.
I thunk* my black bars got brighter when APL goes up, and I was guessing that's the case with almost anyone here. I never thought about floating blacks with my PJ, as I always attributed that to the fact that my room itself becomes brighter, and that the reflections would brighten my black bars, and I say that with what is probably the closest thing to a cave that an AHer might have (I mean my floor is flat black, and all periphery outside of ceiling is dark burgundy curtaining; some people thought those were black too, until I turned on all the lights). Yes, it's probably complete subjective BS on my part, since I never measured it, but turn off your own lights, and look at your walls become whiter when the TV is brighter. Oh yes, that definitely affects what you see!
If it was truly* bad, across the board, I would imagine EVERYBODY would return their sets. Plasma is already considered by the masses as extremely prone to burn in, consuming a billion watts, with glare so bad you could harvest solar energy with it. And so, throw this in, throw rising blacks in, and it would be shooting themselves in the foot? Have they been THAT bad? Hm.
Besides the band-aid thought, I wonder how much of this might be caused by trying to mimic the idea of the locally dimmed led backlit lcd panel. Probably not, but maybe a wee tiny bit. Do we read about those owners saying, "omg, in chapter 16 of AVP, a minute in, you can see the dimming change quite easily when on gamma 2.2 for a second, in the upper right!". Come to think of it, since I mentioned that random gamma thing, many complainers seem that don't even mention their settings, let alone having it calibrated to begin with.
My own JVC projector can exhibit a neonish green, which might have a serious videophile puke. Well, nobody, and I mean nobody, has noticed it at my place, including people who work in the film industry. Everything else about the pic is overwhelmingly beautiful for that to be noticed. Oh yeah, there were at least a few hobbyists who said they could not handle the motion with my display, but I can say yet again the same thing. Winter games, basketball, it's still awesome (though much higher in APL with my OTA signal).
I bet you noticed that optical illusion thing mentioned on the last page of the link you provided me. You may have seen me post this before, as I first saw it thanks to BMX, but here it is (and I bring it up, because I do think it is a valid point to indeed bring up):
Which square is brighter, A or B?
Answer:
They are EXACTLY the same. Yes, trick question by my wording, you'll forgive me.
OK. I just searched threads started by you in this subforum, and I think I've read every post of yours in those threads.
It looks like this never came up in your own threads, though you may have noticed em, but just in case:
The "long version" for SM tweaks to your present S1:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=634626&postcount=9
and the "short version":
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=654298&postcount=17
I bet you came across these already, though, yes?