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    as if COVID wasn't bad enough ............

    So what's up with this democrat cry to defund or disband the police? In some of the most crime ridden areas of the country today? Can anybody explain how that would help fix your "systemic racism"? When virtually EVERYONE agrees the Floyd videos look like brutality and the cops should feel...
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    as if COVID wasn't bad enough ............

    You mean like this? Same church. Same book. Clinton walked over there to try to distract everybody that he was shtupping the intern with a cigar. Trump went to the church to celebrate people coming together to repair it after it had been torched the night before.
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    Coronavirus

    But Tide Pods... now there's some good eats!!!
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    Coronavirus

    Wow, Doc. Take a break. Maybe a drink. I suggested "the mortality rate" could be comparable. In fact, I didn't even suggest it. I referred to 3 different studies from reputable sources that suggest it. Then I asked a question. I made no assertions or assumptions or claims. And I did not...
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    Coronavirus

    Yes, that was my understanding. In order to test positive for the antibodies, you had to actually have the virus at some point. Maybe Doc can clarify. If that's true, it means many, many more people have had the virus than the denominator currently being used. And that means many people with...
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    Coronavirus

    Now that antibody tests are available, there have been 3 major studies. Stanford did one around San Francisco. USC did one around LA. And I forgot who did the one in New York state. ALL THREE showed the number of people exposed to Covid-19 was between 50x to 80x higher than the numbers of...
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    Coronavirus: When Would You Turn The Country Back On?

    Doc, thanks. This DOES need to be understood. I think you point out, and focus on the worst case scenario. It is necessary for some to do that. On the other hand, the article also says, "False test results could also be at fault, other experts said, or remnants of the virus could still be in...
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    Coronavirus: When Would You Turn The Country Back On?

    I know. This is what I responded to... "My mom at least is a Trump supporter. I used to think she was smart. Classic case if ONLY hearing what he says and not paying attention to what he does. Note: not trying to take this political. We have enough of that around here already. " Not sure how...
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    Coronavirus: When Would You Turn The Country Back On?

    Oh right... I'm the one. You people...
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    Coronavirus: When Would You Turn The Country Back On?

    No intentional booby traps. Just discussion. A. Plenty of people propose keeping the country/economy shut down until Corona is completely eradicated? Really? I did not know that. The current shutdown would ultimately destroy the country if maintained. Do these people believe eradication is...
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    Coronavirus: When Would You Turn The Country Back On?

    Agreed. And I think that balance of economic and health criteria is what will make the decision so difficult. Conceding lives for the economy would be a tough argument to make. That's what will happen if we don't wait for 100% eradication of Corona. And I'm not sure anybody proposes waiting...
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    I'm hearing that, like the flu, a vaccine would likely be only partially effective and could be a year away. So do we maintain current disipline until a vaccine is available? Or do we look for another criteria?
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    Can a vaccine still be effective on a virus that is mutating? How far out is availability of a likely vaccine? Is that what we wait for to turn back on?
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    This is not a political question. It is a Corona question intended to circumvent politics. Knowing what we know now, and learning what we expect to learn tomorrow, what should be our criteria for turning the country back on? I don't know what metrics should be used, but I agree with Mikado...
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    I agree that's what should be done. However, that means the answer(s) will be based on some judgement. I'm not sure Covid-19, and all its offspring, will ever be totally eradicated. And that means some people will still die AFTER the country begins turning back on. And that means no matter...
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    Coronavirus

    Oh. I forgot. Somebody asked about my use of "B HO" to refer to Obama. I use it because it's pronounced, "Bee Hoe". I think it sounds funny. Though less cruel and offensive than many of the names you people use for "Trump", it's funny to me. Has nothing to do with race, religion, or...
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    Wow. (Who is Larry Kudlow?) It seems looking ahead is a toxic area. I'm simply asking how we recover from this. When do we open the barber shops? Restaurants? Theaters? I understand it's easier to Monday morning quarterback. Just thought someone here might have a thought or plan about...
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    Coronavirus

    Thanks, Doc. I do believe this is serious, but I'm still not clear on how serious. There seems to be a variety of numbers. Almost all of the "impact" projections are significantly dropping. I believe it is because some people focused on the "worst case" models and published those numbers...
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    No politics in the question. Simply asking where do we go from here. If you can't answer or contribute without politics, please feel free to abstain.
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    Coronavirus/COVID-19 (No Politics)

    What is expected when all the segregation is ended due to a low number of new cases? If widespread quarantine is at least partly responsible for the decrease in viral transmissions, where is the point at which we can stop the quarantine without restarting the virus spread? Do we wait for a...
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