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Amplification is already well solved and audibly transparent in any decent, self-respecting product of this price range. As such it's about as commodified as a light bulb. As for "build quality", the same is true. Whether built in China, Malaysia or whatever, these things are built to global...

I would again point out that what you pass of here as "a few refinements" are in fact a platform overhaul, as they require a step up: much more computing horsepower and a new OS. Thats why YPAO avoid the sub frequencies - cant handle it. But why would someone in 2012 release a product that...

Its 2012 and we are steaming to 2013. - This product has a GUI that really does not belong on a consumer product released in the last five years - The remote isnt exactly a best practice output either - The room is clearly weak relative to what is technically possible in an affordable consumer...

Hope youll now retract nw that even audioholics has written ab article admitting that Denon and Marantz are basicalky same amps, same product in different wrapping and a few connectors thrown in. "High current feedbck" is just marketing BS.

No offense but this article feels like it was dictated by D&M. First we get at admission that these things are the exact sane inside, then some attempt to justify charging more mobey for 5 cents worth of industrial connectors claiming to be hi-fi? Sorry but this laughable. And it only confirms...

For one thing your statement that "most people" sit too far from receiver to see the LCD is wrong. Most people ate watching watching TV at 10-11 ft or less. We know this from studies of Tv usage and living room design. And the TV is typically set up further away from users than their receiver...

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

"4k upscaling" in a receiver is a total hoax. What 4K display is NOT going to upscale a signal to 4K? It's not like Denon has come anywhere near ever perfecting the rest of the receiver. Would have been more useful to invest the money in any of the many remaining weaknesses including the...

The Marantz is a rebadged 3312, with 10% better remote control and 100% worse LCD screen.

Gotta agree. I dont know what Pioneer are thinking by continuing with MCACC as it is. They either need to redevelop it from the ground up (probably cant afford the investment) or licence something. The answer seems obvious what they need to do.

The issue is not cost at all it is psychology. These products are made at relatively low manufacturing cost, often by the same Chinese outsourcer. The game is about branding, not cost. Also, these manufacturers know full well that most equipment these days is well past the threshold of audible...

I dont think its that deep. This seems to me similar looking to the redesign or Pioneer's receivers. Probably to suit the OEM that makes them all.

It was the Proficient M80 which was cloned by NAD, Harman Kardon and several other "boutique" brands. I think NAD called their version the NAD 747 or something. More on it here: Just received a proficient M80 - AVS Forum

You do not need more amplifier power than in a 12x12 room than wghat you have now. I once had a 35WPC stereo receiver in a room that size running 4 ohm Canton speakers and it didnt even break a sweat. You probably dont need 2 subwoofers either, as a single decent one can probably pressurize a...

You're burned a lot of energy creating a red herring. If you really want to do this, I'd suggest trying harder, as its not working. I said an honest and ubiased press is necessary if there is to be a smart consumer. And a smart citizen by the way. Simple as that. You cant process that through...

sorry I made a duplicate post by mistake - deleting this one.

The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal are our two largest national daily papers. None bear the Apple name. Would you say that their reviews of Apple products are balanced and critical where appropriate? Ir closer to advertising in the editorial portion of the newspaper? Have you thought...

This is what I mean about mind control. Lets have a look at a rare review of said Apple TV by a publication that actually tries to look at things from the consumer perspective: Apple TV Digital Media Receiver Review | AVForums.com - UK Online "...So far so good but what isn't so good...

Oh enough with the Apple hype already. I dont understand why you people in the media insist on giving them free advertising. Have you asked yourself what their proflit line looks like and what yours looks like? That what happens when you mind control people into giving you free publicity. As...

We're talking about Denon 3312 and Denon 4311. You've posted numbers from....Denon 4310. The two publications that I can remember have tested both 3312 and 4311 in the same process were StereoPlay.de and Home Chinema Choice in the UK...