Philharmonic Audio - 3-way open back ML-TQWTs designed by Dennis Murphy

[frsimms]

Bob, where are the Philharmonic 2 plates?

The Philharmonic 2s don't have pliths or spikes. Some people are putting spikes or Herbies Big Foots on them.

Bob

[woodsart]

The Philharmonic 2s don't have pliths or spikes. Some people are putting spikes or Herbies Big Foots on them.

Bob

I understand, but I am talking about the oval silver plates that are attached to the front of the speaker.

[agarwalro]

LOL

I am not planning to do a full comparison as I don’t think that it would be fair. There is too much of a quality/price difference to do that. As an example, I wouldn’t think comparison of the museum finish of the SoundScapes to the finish of the Twos. The Twos have a great finish for a $2k pair of speakers but not for a $12k class of speaker. It would be unfair to ding the Twos for only having an excellent finish.

I know you and others want some comparison. The SoundScapes are big boys and can take care of themselves. I will tell everything that I like better about the Twos.

Bob

Comparing the two is unfair to say the least, yet academically very intriguing. (And, it's not like the outcome will be anything unforeseen.)

I was fortunate to meet Jim Salk and experience pairs of early Soundscape prototypes at the Oregon GTG, an experience not easily forgotten. That we can even reference Phil and SS in the same conversation is a major endorsement of the Phil sound rather than a detractor of the SS.

[frsimms]

I understand, but I am talking about the oval silver plates that are attached to the front of the speaker.

Oh, Dennis sent them with the speaker. I just haven't put them on yet. I need to ask my friend if he wants them on or off.

Bob

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Even if the Philharmonic speakers sounded better than the Soundscape, who would believe it?

It's impossible. Don't even think about it. You will lose.

[GranteedEV]

Even if the Philharmonic speakers sounded better than the Soundscape, who would believe it?

The accuton is ceramic, don'tchaknow?

Seriously though, even if the speakers did sound very similar, a 12" AE woofer will have an edge over either of the 8" Phil woofers. There's something mean and imposing about big woofers

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The accuton is ceramic, don'tchaknow?

Seriously though, even if the speakers did sound very similar, a 12" AE woofer will have an edge over either of the 8" Phil woofers. There's something mean and imposing about big woofers

Sure...until you add 2 Funkywave 18" subwoofers to the Phil's.

But everyone already knows the mids and highs of the Soundscape will still be sweeter and more detailed because they cost $16K.

Just like how Linkwitz realized that his Orion would sound so much better when powered with $18K amps than with $1.8K amps. Why fight it? The money is out there. People will buy.

[Calvin Hobbes]

Sure...until you add 2 Funkywave 18" subwoofers to the Phil's.

But everyone already knows the mids and highs of the Soundscape will still be sweeter and more detailed because they cost $16K.

Just like how Linkwitz realized that his Orion would sound so much better when powered with $18K amps than with $1.8K amps. Why fight it? The money is out there. People will buy.

All hail the Veblen effect!

[AcuDefTechGuy]

All hail the Veblen effect!

Cool. Now I can add Veblen effect to my vocabulary.

I think Linkwitz increased the price of the Orion because he wanted them to sound as good as the Soundscape due to the Veblen effect.

I'm sure Dennis is familiar with the Veblen effect since he is an economist. I'm glad he is not subscribing to it.

[DenPureSound]

I know ones Orions/KEF/Salons setup must of taken into consideration The Veblen effect after economist Thorstein Veblen, who first pointed out the concepts of conspicuous consumption and status-seeking.

My new theory -- the Reciprocal of the Veblen Goods Effect.

Sure makes GREAT things more affordable with this theory.