Philharmonic Audio - 3-way open back ML-TQWTs designed by Dennis Murphy

[GranteedEV]

Hopefully soon, I'm still waiting on an entertainment center a friend is building for me as well, so it'll be a few weeks before everything is 100% settled. In the meantime I'll be happily playing with them trying to get the best out of them in this terrible terrible room

You have a "problem" i'd love to "be stuck with"

[fuzz092888]

Oh don't misunderstand me, I'm plenty happy to have all of these "problems"

[AcuDefTechGuy]

So does GranteedEV have any concrete news regarding a pair of Phil2 someone may be getting like anytime soon?

[AcuDefTechGuy]

In the meantime I'll be happily playing with them trying to get the best out of them in this terrible terrible room

AJ was telling me a lot of these "show rooms" at all these audio fests are like shoe boxes. But somehow the great speakers still manage to sound pretty great even when handicapped with poor shoe box room acoustics.

Sure, the room could improve the speakers. But great speakers like these will still sound fantastic even at only 70% potential.

[fuzz092888]

AJ was telling me a lot of these "show rooms" at all these audio fests are like shoe boxes. But somehow the great speakers still manage to sound pretty great even when handicapped with poor shoe box room acoustics.

Sure, the room could improve the speakers. But great speakers like these will still sound fantastic even at only 70% potential.

No argument there, they still sound pretty darn good

However there are too many things in here as I pack things up, plus the wall they are in front of has different depths so one speaker is closer to the wall than the other which shifts the soundstage off center (dunno if that's a real thing but I think that's what I'm hearing). Plus theres a huge dead spots where no bass hath escapeth. So anything in or near that 4X4 foot square has zero bass in any other part of the room.

I'm pretty sure even those shoebox rooms are at least somewhat rectangular and not packed full of boxes

Oh well soon enough

[Irvrobinson]

A-weight Peak about 87dBA, but usually below 85dBA.

When I switched to C-weight, it was about 93dBC peak.

It just occurred to me, ADTG, as I was using my handheld meter to monitor levels I was listening to on the Yellowjackets, and I was measuring mid-80s average and about 90db peaks. Maybe an occasional 92db horn. And it is plenty loud. But that handheld meter is damped and very slow, because it isn't intended to measure 10ms peaks. So I switched to the OmniMic, and the peaks are coming in, C-weighted, at 98db, so far.

In this thread I was talking about OmniMic peaks - very short - and I think you are talking about the highly damped peaks of a handheld meter. True? If so, we are probably listening at somewhat similar levels. Maybe I'm listening a little louder.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

It just occurred to me, ADTG, as I was using my handheld meter to monitor levels I was listening to on the Yellowjackets, and I was measuring mid-80s average and about 90db peaks. Maybe an occasional 92db horn. And it is plenty loud. But that handheld meter is damped and very slow, because it isn't intended to measure 10ms peaks. So I switched to the OmniMic, and the peaks are coming in, C-weighted, at 98db, so far.

In this thread I was talking about OmniMic peaks - very short - and I think you are talking about the highly damped peaks of a handheld meter. True? If so, we are probably listening at somewhat similar levels. Maybe I'm listening a little louder.

I think so. I'm using a hand held $60 digital Galaxy SPL meter measured in C-weight (Slow Response). The peak I've measured was 93dBC.

[Irvrobinson]

I think so. I'm using a hand held $60 digital Galaxy SPL meter measured in C-weight (Slow Response). The peak I've measured was 93dBC.

Well, if it's the meter I think it is, it's digital and has fast and slow modes, so perhaps not.

[billy p]

I think so. I'm using a hand held $60 digital Galaxy SPL meter measured in C-weight (Slow Response). The peak I've measured was 93dBC.

Aren't you suppose to be on vaction in Cancun WTH did you bring the laptop along for...
BTW saw pictures of the resort...looks real nice...

Enjoy the vaction...

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Aren't you suppose to be on vaction in Cancun WTH did you bring the laptop along for...
BTW saw pictures of the resort...looks real nice...

Enjoy the vaction...

Thanks. Great Parnassus resort isn't bad, except for all the Yamaha pro cab speakers. I wish they had JBL or Yorkville or similar.

Can't live w/o internet. Down time. Can't be in the ocean or pool all the time.

I brought 1 HP laptop for my 9 yr old, 1 Motorola Xoom for 10 yr old, 1 Xoom for me, & wife uses her EVO 4G.