Musical is Hi-Fi.
There is no difference to me.
Good is good.
If it's good, I'm into it.
If I'm not into it, then it's bad and it's neither musical nor Hi-Fi.
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So... I have my own personal thoughts on the two, but what about you guys?
Have you ever listened to a speaker that sounded good, but couldn't get you "into" it?
Lets hear some examples of "musical vs hifi" speakers and definitions!
Musical is Hi-Fi.
There is no difference to me.
Good is good.
If it's good, I'm into it.
If I'm not into it, then it's bad and it's neither musical nor Hi-Fi.
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You can go for one that everyone says is perfect for you, or you can go for the one that YOU say is right for you.
If they happen to be the same, mazel tov. If not, take your choice.
After all, you're the one who will be living with your choice, no one else.
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AJinFLA is quite helpful
My personal thought is that you should stop reading the moronic audiophile magazines and websites that create these moronic, meaningless terms and false dichotomies.
By excessively reading such idiotic meaningless drivel, you will eventually drag yourself down and start repeating these terms that have no defined meaning, except in the mind(?) of the reciter.
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I've been lucky to attend RMAF the past few years and will be there again in a few weeks. I've had the opportunity to hear some amazing gear, a few of which I and some others felt were "too intense" leaving the listener(s) exhausted. It was not a matter of the music being too loud, just hearing every note in a very aggressive presentation. I've never heard the term "hifi" in relation to being too much sound.
Musical to me, and what I've gathered from designers, audiophiles, and reviewers is when the equipment/speakers performs in such a way as the listener gets "lost" in the music. The individual can enjoy tunes all day without fatigue.
Some describe musical as the sound frequency edges being "rounded" or "softened" ever so slightly.
AMEN!
The audio mags/reviewers must have something like a Rolodex with adjectives they change out on a regular basis. Phrases like 'lilting highs' - 'mid-range presence' - 'an airy presence' and 'the soundstage opened up like I've never heard' - etc - etc - makes me laugh whenever I read them.
Reminds me of the old limerick that goes something like this:
(Found on a wall in a public stall)(not by me)
People who write on ****house walls
should roll their *** in little balls
people who read these words of wit
should eat those little balls of ****
Anon...
Thats about what the words of the reviewers are worth to me. And don't get me started on reviews of $12,000 interconnects...
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Alex2507 (10-01-2010)
AJinFLA is quite helpful
Adj. 1. high-fidelity - characterized by minimal distortion in sound reproduction; "a high-fidelity recording"; "a hi-fi system"
hi-fi
accurate - conforming exactly or almost exactly to fact or to a standard or performing with total accuracy; "an accurate reproduction"; "the accounting was accurate"; "accurate measurements"; "an accurate scale"By definition, non Hi-Fi would be distortion/additive components of coloration, so insert meaningless term here _____ (musical, magical, toe-tapping, PRAT, hand-in-pants-good, etc, etc, etc.)Musical
or musical comedy
Theatrical production that is characteristically sentimental and amusing in nature, having a simple but distinctive plot and offering music, dancing, and dialogue. Its roots can be traced to 18th- and 19th-century genres such as ballad opera, singspiel, and opéra comique.
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just listening (10-01-2010)
In our home the SET based system gets played pretty much all waking hours, while others lie dormant. Its not 'hi-fi' strictly speaking, but greatly preferred to the other systems, which conform to the prevailing technical morality (meaning systems which AJ would approve of). The SET system pulls off the 'musicians in your living room' effect, despite inherent technical limitations. I'm sure it measures like crap, but frankly I don't care because it sounds more realistic. More musical? That's subjective. To each his own. I like SETs and big ol' horns.