annunaki (01-12-2013)
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So I decided to redesign boxes for my 10" Eclipse SW8102 subwoofers. I have been utilizing them in a very small sealed enclosure for the past year or two since I pulled them out of my car a few years ago. Currently they are in a 0.5 cubic ft enclosure for each 10 with the gray carpet as standard on most car enclosures. Here it is.
Attachment 11166
So after much debate between sealed and ported I opted for sealed. For two reasons, easier to build and better sound quality in my opinion. I stumbled across a site Home page DIY Sound Group and decided to go with the 1.25 cubic foot size and send them the cutout sizes for my Eclipse subs. I also buck up 2 pairs of terminal lugs to mount to the back since I will be using my external Adcom Amp.
Here are some pics of the kit and the assembly, gluing and clamping process. I used the advice of several to not use any screws or nails and just lots of wood glue.
Here are the pics...in the next post. Tomorrow will be assembling the second box and starting to sand this one.
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
annunaki (01-12-2013)
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Put the second one together last night. Here are some pics of the first fully assembled box. You can see it has good internal bracing and is well made with a double thick counter sunk face.
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Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
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Well I found an autobody shop to do the finshing of the cabinets....I dropped them off Saturday and should get them back finished this Saturday. I think I got a good deal. $100 to fill the gaps, sand and do a full paint for each.
Last edited by Jeff R.; 01-28-2013 at 07:36 AM.
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
I have some of the specs for that driver in my data base. Full specs were never published. However in your boxes you will have an F3 of 46 Hz. The Qtc will be 0.57 which is excellent. You have an xmax of 300 mm to work with so you will need to Eq. You always do for a sealed enclosure. You will need to apply Eq at 12 db per octave starting around 55 Hz. (Linkwitz transform). You will need a high pass filter at 20 Hz. If you do that you will have pretty impressive subs. There will be little deep bass without Eq. You will need lots of amp power. I can not find pe or sensitivity specs for that driver, and so I have no idea what spl you will achieve.
As Fuzz has found out, sealed subs are not easy to implement. A sealed box is easier to build, however the total design is more complex than ported, and more expensive.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Marantz DV 9600 Oppo BD-83 Marantz AV 8003 Quad current dumping amps X 7 Direct TV HD 20 HD DVR Carter audio workstation RME Fireface 800 Fujitsu 50XHA40 Front left and right Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK II. Center Carter coaxial transmission line center speaker Rear Carter NFM-1s Center backs Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK I. My system: - http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/...27077317_Pufg7
Jeff R. (01-28-2013)
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Can I accomplish this with a Crown XLS 1000 or 1500?
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
Marantz DV 9600 Oppo BD-83 Marantz AV 8003 Quad current dumping amps X 7 Direct TV HD 20 HD DVR Carter audio workstation RME Fireface 800 Fujitsu 50XHA40 Front left and right Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK II. Center Carter coaxial transmission line center speaker Rear Carter NFM-1s Center backs Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK I. My system: - http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/...27077317_Pufg7
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I thought the crown would give me this functionality?? If not then I may go with an INuke from Behringer, will that do it for me?
Also, I am not sure I understand what the High Pass Subsonic filter does? I believe my sub will only play down to about 26 Hz, so what does the 20 hz filter do?
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
Jeff R. has very reliable input
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
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Okay so I got the boxes back today and took a bunch of pics during assembly.....I can not figure out how to add more pics?? How do I delete the one in my Manage Attachments File???
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555
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Here are a few...can I get more picture capability some how...seems like I do not have much space.Attachment 11362Attachment 11361
Home Theatre System (5.2):
TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
Reciever:Onkyo 805
DVD: PS3
Fronts: PSB Image 6T
Center: PSB Image 6C
Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
Subs: 2 x ED A2-300
Family Room System (3.2)
TV: 55" Sony LCD
Receiver: Onkyo 708
Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
CD: Denon DCM-290
Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
Center: MB Quart QLS-330
Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555