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    Default Building 2 Sealed Enclosures for my 2 - 10" Subs

    So I decided to redesign boxes for my 10" Eclipse SW8102 subwoofers. I have been utilizing them in a very small sealed enclosure for the past year or two since I pulled them out of my car a few years ago. Currently they are in a 0.5 cubic ft enclosure for each 10 with the gray carpet as standard on most car enclosures. Here it is.

    Attachment 11166


    So after much debate between sealed and ported I opted for sealed. For two reasons, easier to build and better sound quality in my opinion. I stumbled across a site Home page DIY Sound Group and decided to go with the 1.25 cubic foot size and send them the cutout sizes for my Eclipse subs. I also buck up 2 pairs of terminal lugs to mount to the back since I will be using my external Adcom Amp.

    Here are some pics of the kit and the assembly, gluing and clamping process. I used the advice of several to not use any screws or nails and just lots of wood glue.

    Here are the pics...in the next post. Tomorrow will be assembling the second box and starting to sand this one.
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Default Second Box Assembled

    Put the second one together last night. Here are some pics of the first fully assembled box. You can see it has good internal bracing and is well made with a double thick counter sunk face.

    Attachment 11183Attachment 11182Attachment 11180Attachment 11181Attachment 11179
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Well I found an autobody shop to do the finshing of the cabinets....I dropped them off Saturday and should get them back finished this Saturday. I think I got a good deal. $100 to fill the gaps, sand and do a full paint for each.
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    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff R. View Post
    So I decided to redesign boxes for my 10" Eclipse SW8102 subwoofers. I have been utilizing them in a very small sealed enclosure for the past year or two since I pulled them out of my car a few years ago. Currently they are in a 0.5 cubic ft enclosure for each 10 with the gray carpet as standard on most car enclosures. Here it is.

    Attachment 11166


    So after much debate between sealed and ported I opted for sealed. For two reasons, easier to build and better sound quality in my opinion. I stumbled across a site Home page DIY Sound Group and decided to go with the 1.25 cubic foot size and send them the cutout sizes for my Eclipse subs. I also buck up 2 pairs of terminal lugs to mount to the back since I will be using my external Adcom Amp.

    Here are some pics of the kit and the assembly, gluing and clamping process. I used the advice of several to not use any screws or nails and just lots of wood glue.

    Here are the pics...in the next post. Tomorrow will be assembling the second box and starting to sand this one.
    I have some of the specs for that driver in my data base. Full specs were never published. However in your boxes you will have an F3 of 46 Hz. The Qtc will be 0.57 which is excellent. You have an xmax of 300 mm to work with so you will need to Eq. You always do for a sealed enclosure. You will need to apply Eq at 12 db per octave starting around 55 Hz. (Linkwitz transform). You will need a high pass filter at 20 Hz. If you do that you will have pretty impressive subs. There will be little deep bass without Eq. You will need lots of amp power. I can not find pe or sensitivity specs for that driver, and so I have no idea what spl you will achieve.

    As Fuzz has found out, sealed subs are not easy to implement. A sealed box is easier to build, however the total design is more complex than ported, and more expensive.

    Good luck and keep us posted.
    Marantz DV 9600 Oppo BD-83 Marantz AV 8003 Quad current dumping amps X 7 Direct TV HD 20 HD DVR Carter audio workstation RME Fireface 800 Fujitsu 50XHA40 Front left and right Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK II. Center Carter coaxial transmission line center speaker Rear Carter NFM-1s Center backs Carter dual transmission line studio monitors MK I. My system: - http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/...27077317_Pufg7

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    Can I accomplish this with a Crown XLS 1000 or 1500?
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff R. View Post
    Can I accomplish this with a Crown XLS 1000 or 1500?
    That should give you enough amp power. What are you going to use for the equalizer and high pass subsonic filter?
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    I thought the crown would give me this functionality?? If not then I may go with an INuke from Behringer, will that do it for me?

    Also, I am not sure I understand what the High Pass Subsonic filter does? I believe my sub will only play down to about 26 Hz, so what does the 20 hz filter do?
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS Guy View Post
    You will need to apply Eq at 12 db per octave starting around 55 Hz. (Linkwitz transform). You will need a high pass filter at 20 Hz. If you do that you will have pretty impressive subs. There will be little deep bass without Eq. .
    Can somebody help me understand how I accomplish this?? I will assembling and testing This weekend and do not know what I need to buy to accomplish this. Is is simply buying one of those MiniDSP modules that are around $100 or so??

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    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Okay so I got the boxes back today and took a bunch of pics during assembly.....I can not figure out how to add more pics?? How do I delete the one in my Manage Attachments File???
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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    Here are a few...can I get more picture capability some how...seems like I do not have much space.Attachment 11362Attachment 11361
    Home Theatre System (5.2):
    TV: 60" Hitachi DLP
    Reciever:Onkyo 805
    DVD: PS3
    Fronts: PSB Image 6T
    Center: PSB Image 6C
    Surrounds: Swans Diva 4.2
    Subs: 2 x ED A2-300


    Family Room System (3.2)
    TV: 55" Sony LCD
    Receiver: Onkyo 708
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    CD: Denon DCM-290
    Fronts: MB Quart QLS-1030
    Center: MB Quart QLS-330
    Subs: 2 x 10" Eclipse SW8102 in sealed boxes -Amp - Adcom GFA-555

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