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    Default Working with what I've got - new to this! apple/iphone related

    Whats up everybody!?

    I'm looking for some advice and know-how to get my audio setup going down the right track. Currently, I have an apple mbp laptop and iphone. I was hoping someone could recommend a good pair of speakers to pair with the laptop.

    Also, I need to rip all of my CDs (only 200 or so) to my new laptop. I'd like to stick with using itunes for now because that's what I'm familiar with. What settings can I use within that platform to achieve the best quality music?

    I listen to quite a bit of jazz and rock & roll, some acoustic too - alot of various live concert recordings. Not sure if that matters...

    From what I could gather (lurking), apple/itunes isn't the best choice for high quality audio but it's what I need to work with (for now), so if anyone can get me started I'd really appreciate it!

    I'll check back in everyday or so - so if anyone has questions or needs me to better explain what I'm trying to do, I'll be around. Again, I know I'm new to this so go easy on me!

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    Are you looking for something portable or a full on system?

    iTunes can be very limiting in file movement so be careful. Be sure you are using 256 kbps and not the standard setup for compression.
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    lsiberian, thanks for the follow-up.

    I listen to a lot of my music on the bus or at work - via the iphone

    But, now that I have a laptop that works pretty well (old one was a pile of crap) I would like to get a small setup going at home. I also have the airport extreme from apple (stream?)

    So use 256 kbps - what about lossless format?

    Thanks again for your reply


    Also, I'd be interested in adding two smaller speakers to just run from the laptop... I would spend up to $500 on a pair so where could that get me?

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    Regarding ripping CDs, I recommend using a lossless format if you have the storage space. 200 CDs takes time (I've done it myself), and if you import them as lossless, you can always convert them to lossy formats later - but you can't go lossy to lossless.

    Personally, I'd use AIFF, but WAV is another good choice.
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    Adam, thanks for the advice.

    I'm assuming the lossless setting for importing is just a basic preferences change I'll track down in itunes prior to ripping.

    What do you mean by AIFF or WAV? Is that another preference I should be setting prior to ripping?

    Sorry for the newbie questions but I'm struggling with all the acronyms and what not!

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    Hi. Yes, the "import settings" will let you set what type of files to create when you rip a CD. The available options (at least in my version of iTunes) are AAC, AIFF, Apple Lossless, MP3, and WAV.

    I know that AIFF and WAV can be played on different platforms. Apple Lossless might be another good option, but I just don't know have universally playable it is.
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    I'll just be using my laptop and iphone for now, so as long as lossless is compatible with both I should be fine, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wurmng View Post
    I'll just be using my laptop and iphone for now, so as long as lossless is compatible with both I should be fine, right?
    AIFF and Wave format are lossless, but also uncompressed - 44.1k/16bit (which is how music stored on cd) would take 10MB a minute or about 650MB for whole CD - 200 CD x 650 = 130 GB

    Apple lossless or ALAC since Apple open sourced it in 2011 if starting be more and more supported and there are tools to convert alac-flac-wav in any direction without losses

    Alac would need about half the space without loosing ANY quality

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    Greetings, wurmng!

    Speakers are a very personal thing, and as the greatest determinants of what you hear, you should try to get your ears on some things prior to purchase.

    That being said, check out Audio Engine as a prime example of just about exactly what you need. They are a well thought out balance of good looks (bamboo cabs are rather nice looking), versatility (remote control volume, variable sub pre-outs for when you add a powered sub or two, built in amps, ease of use), and decent sonics. They are within your budget (looks like ~$400 for black, ~$470 for bamboo).

    Another option would be something like the JBL2328, which are going for $350 from Guitar Center and similar retailers right now. Unfortunately, they only come in black and lack some of the convenience features of the Sound Anchors. These speakers have top notch performance for the price.

    Go out and audition some of these. Don't overlook your local musicians/pro-audio retailer, as they carry these and many others.

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    Thanks everyone for the advice thus far.

    Now I'm beginning to think I would run into storage issues depending on format... I have no problem buying a couple external backup storage units to backup these formats that don't compress the music file.

    Would it work to have one music library that is setup for the iphone (ACC at 256kbps) and then have another music library storage that is setup for AIFF lossless?

    I'm not concerned about getting the utmost highest quality music for my portable device (iphone) but i'd like to have the option to while at home to play higher quality recording. So would adding more storage and basically having two different formats of the same music work?

    Again, some of the lingo and logic I'm putting behind this probably sounds retarded to some of you so I apologize!

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