New Sonys

<font color='#000000'>Hi,

I am a little confused about these new S-Master amps, even thought hey are powerful, the have a high THD of 0.6%, why, or doesn't it matter because of a high S/N ratio.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-tgYoE....ch=sony

:0~

Bob</font>

<font color='#000000'>Khellandros,

These new amps use a digital (class d) output section. Many new implementations of digital amplifiers have higher distotion figures due to the distortion created by the output L/C filter.

Newer digital amplifiers have a control/feedback loop which takes into consideration the distortion created by the L/C filter and corrects for it. These amps will rival linear amps for distortion levels.

Interested in more info:

Mueta
ICEpower

Paul</font>

<font color='#000000'>Grumble, grumble....

Well, I guess I need to find me that STR-DA4ES before they totally dissappear as I'm not at all interested in putting a silver component in my otherwise black stack. &nbsp;Black is good - its subdued, and it doesn't draw attention. &nbsp;

Has anyone done a comparision between this line and the last; say the DA4ES and the DA3000ES?

(Friggen silver.... argh!)</font>

<font color='#000000'>Here is a 33-page PDF document with some useful information on new ES receivers. Click on this link below and type in STRDA3000ES.


http://www.iq.sony.com/srvs/sosdocs/default.asp</font>

<font color='#000000'>Thanks Alot Terence I appreciate the info, which is a little more than i can understand but I am working learnin more about digital amp.

~

Bob</font>

<font color='#000080'>I've been talking Gene in to getting some info online about some of these &quot;new&quot; amps. Should be out soon.</font>

<font color='#000000'>Rob,

No problem.

hawke,

Can't wait to see it.

I'm really, really want to see detailed pics of the rear panel of the STR-DA9000ES.</font>

<font color='#000000'>I got picture of new 9000ES today and have picture of back of unit along with all specs. &nbsp;Here is the new stuff about it:
2 DVI inputs
1 DVI output
Upconvert to component video
200 x 7 channel watts
9.1 chcannel capability
Ummmmmmm.....has i.Link for SACD with SCD-XA 9000ES
3 component video inputs: HD Pass (80MHZ)
3 zone
2nd remote included for other room
Detachable AC (whatever that means)
Looking at it makes me wet!!!!!! &nbsp;I was buying the Denon AVR 5803 until I saw this. &nbsp;Where are Sony's sold at discount? &nbsp;I figure this answer is a fair trade for the info? &nbsp;Thanks. &nbsp;</font>

<font color='#000080'>Andy, email it to me at clint@audioholics.com and I'll post it.

Email me the biggest version you have of the rear of the unit.</font>

<font color='#000000'>I really commend Sony for the advances they have brought about in their new line. As some of you will know this was the topic of my first post on this forum. Clearly both switching power supplies and digital amps are the way of the future.

While I don't think Sony quite nailed it yet, they have done an outstanding job. For the STR-DA 2000 through 5000 0.8% distortion is just a little too high for me. However they should make their distortion graphs available as distortion does tend to kick up rather quickly when the power supply runs out of juice. Perhaps they are too eagerly going after the high output power numbers.

I personally will always take fidelity over power, especially when we are in the 120W+ range. From what I have read however, it does seem that obtaining a clean output from a digital amp is easier with an analog input, rather than a digtal input. Kind of ironic but it seems that analog inputs allow better feedback mechanism to be employed.

Paul</font>

<font color='#000000'>Hawke,

I have a full 8x10 page of it, but it's hard copy. &nbsp;Not yet scanned it. &nbsp;I will try, but my attempts to scan and send mail rarely work. &nbsp;I never did get an answer where to buy the 9000ES at discount prices? &nbsp;Trying to send it to you soon. &nbsp;Andy.</font>

<font color='#000000'>Hello hawke
I'm sending you some info on that big, bad sony </font>

<font color='#000080'>Wow. Lots of info. The question now is what's legal to post... I know one thing - as soon as we're able, we'll have an article up about the new tech. I'll build it now and have it ready.</font>

<font color='#000000'>finally a rear shot of the STR-DA9000ES.



Key Features :


7 Channel Direct Drive Digital amplifier: 200 Watts Per Channel x 7 (8 ohms 20Hz - 20kHz, THD .15%)
Dolby® Digital, Dolby Digital EX, dts®, dts-ES®, dts-ES 96/24®, dts: Neo6®, Dolby Pro Logic II Decoding
Video Up-Conversion to Component video
i.LINK Input for SACD (interface with SCD-XA9000ES)
2 DVI Inputs/1 DVI Output
3 Component video Inputs: HD Pass (80 MHz)
3 Zone/3 Room Output, RS-232C, 12 V Trig X 5, 1 IR In/2 IR Out
2 Way Pre-Programmed/Learning/Macro/LCD Touch Panel Remote Control (2nd Remote Included for Multi-Zone Control)
Digital Section

7 .1 Channel Decoding
Dual 32 Bit System (32 Bit Decoding Chip/32 Bit Digital Signal Processing)
32-Bit Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Digital, dts, dts-ES, and Dolby Pro Logic II decoder
Digital Signal Processor with 11 Acoustic Environments
Digital Cinema Sound™ system with Cinema Studio EX Modes
Sound Field Programs: : Cinema - 4
Cinema Studio EX A/B/C Mode
Dolby® Digital EX Decoding
Dolby® Digital Decoding
Dolby® Pro Logic II Decoding
dts-ES® Decoding
dts 96/24® Decoding
dts® Decoding
dts® NEO:6 Decoding
Matrix 7.1 Mode
Amplifier Section :

7 Channel Power Rating: : 200 Watts Per Channel X 7 (8 ohms 20 Hz - 20 kHz, THD .15%)
Stereo Power Rating: : 200 Watts Per Channel X 2 (8 ohms 20 Hz-20 kHz, THD TBD%)
8/4 ohm Rated Amplifier Output
A /B or A+B Speaker Switching for Front Speakers
A /B or A+B Speaker Switching for Surround Speakers
Analog Bass Management
Circuit Devices: Discrete
Circuit Type: Digital
Inputs and Outputs :

3 Zone/3 Room (Room 2 A/V Output, Room 3 Audio Output) with Independent Source Source and Volume
7.1 Channel Pre-Amplifier Output
3 HD Capable Component video Inputs/1 Output
Phono Input (MM type)
13 Analog Audio Line Inputs/5 Audio Analog Line Outputs
6 Optical 5 Coaxial Input/2 Optical Line Output
8 Composite Video Inputs/3 Composite Video Outputs
8 S-Video Inputs/3 S-Video output
2 DVI Inputs/1 DVI Output
1 Front Audio Video Input with S-Video, Composite, and Optical Digital.
2 Composite MONITOR OUTPUT/2 S-Video MONITOR OUTPUT
i.LINK Digital Input for SCD-XA9000ES Super Audio CD Player
RS-232C for Control
5 12V Triggers / 1 IR Input / 2 IR Output
Control S Input / Control S Output
Control A-1 II Input
FM Antenna Input (75 Ohm Coaxial Type)
AM Antenna Input (Spring Clip Dual Terminal)
1/4&quot; Headphone jack Output
Construction Features :

Aluminum Panel
Two 7.1 Multi-Channel Analog Inputs
Frame and Beam Construction
Vertical Mounted Audio/Video Boards
Dual Power Supplies - Un-Regulated, Fully Regulated 2nd Power Supply
Screw Type Speaker Terminals
Convenience Features :

Sound Field Link
Full Digital Cinema Sound System : Equalizer (F/C/Sur/SurB) Bass/Mid/Treble: B,T/B,M,T/B,T/B,T
Multi-Channel Decoding Blue LED
On Screen Display (through Component/S-Video/Composite MONITOR OUTPUT)
Component video Up-Conversion from Composite or S-Video
30 Total Station presets (20 FM/10 AM)
2 Switched AC Outlets, 120 W/1A Max</font>

<font color='#000000'>I visit often and decided to register, i have already posted here on this thread under Terence. Now i'm under Tee-HTF, i look forward to chating with you all. </font>

<font color='#000080'>Thanks for the elusive screenshot.

I'm waiting now to hear all the complaining about how it only has a single firewire port. Seems like every new flagship has at least one missing feature.</font>

<font color='#000000'><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks for the elusive screenshot.</td></tr></table>

No problem.


<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm waiting now to hear all the complaining about how it only has a single firewire port.</td></tr></table>

I'm sure you are right, like the people complaining have soooo much gear that requiers a lot of firewire ports.</font>

<font color='#000000'>The STR-DA9000 weights in at 62.83 lbs. (28.5 kg)

She is pretty beefy.

Approx. Dimensions (w/h/d): : 17&quot; X 9.4&quot; X 17&quot; (18.9&quot; Deep Including Terminals)

If i get one, i will need a new rack just to house it.</font>

<font color='#000000'>More Pictures of the STR-DA9000ES.

Under the hood.



Front Panel open

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<font color='#000000'>Folks,

Wondering about the DA5000ES and its THD.  I have seen the specs that show 0.8% (the Sony technical paper); 0.6% (Crutchfield, etc.); and when I called Sony they said that the owner's manual reads 0.09%.  What's going on here?  Do you think these are measured at different output levels?  Do you think these levels are acceptable?  Would I be better off buying a DA7ES that is still available to me? &nbsp;And do you think they will release the 5000 in black in the US?

Thanks!</font>