Brucest
07-28-2003, 05:13 AM
<font color='#000000'>I beg some indulgence from the wise ones as I try to briefly outline my amazement. *I'm not sure I believe I'm hearing what I think I am
The indulgence is that, even tho I have a near high end system, I really haven't been working hard to keep up.
I'm looking for some confirmaton that a cetain perception is other than a placebo effect.
I like very quick loudspeakers; that factor seems to me to be a key element of realistic sound. *Such a focus has actually has led me to be relatively unhappy with the CD format: glare even with fast is unacceptable, and a fast system makes the input glare more obvious. * Not that I don't have vinyl with glare, but all or almost all CD's have glare and many very good vinyls don't. *
Or so I thought.
I made a foray into moderately high priced CD with an early Adcom that was good per the technology ( as far as I could tell) but ultimately not very good from a sonic standard.
So I've mostly espressed distain for the CD medium by playing it through a succession of relative cheap DVD players, that frankly have improved each time I decided to fork out $200 (kind of).
Then comes Sacd and DVD Audio, and true to my vision, I wait for a cheap combo player (SACD, DVD A and DVD V).
On this cheap player now in hand (Pioneer 653 A) the HD audio formats clearly rival vinyl. *Great.
But here's the kick I think I hear: many CD's also sound much better.
Key example: No Doubt Saturn. *I bought No Doubt cause I thought they were lots of fun *The CD's turned out to be almost unplayable no matter how much I tried. *Very *much glare and very flat. *This is on the CD playback of a 1.5 year old cheapo Phillips DVD. *On the Pioneer the very same CD is a sonic marvel. *No glare, lots of quick. lots of presence (tho whether intended or not, the voices were not etched).
Wow how can this be. *Am I imagining this? Help me o wise ones.</font>
The indulgence is that, even tho I have a near high end system, I really haven't been working hard to keep up.
I'm looking for some confirmaton that a cetain perception is other than a placebo effect.
I like very quick loudspeakers; that factor seems to me to be a key element of realistic sound. *Such a focus has actually has led me to be relatively unhappy with the CD format: glare even with fast is unacceptable, and a fast system makes the input glare more obvious. * Not that I don't have vinyl with glare, but all or almost all CD's have glare and many very good vinyls don't. *
Or so I thought.
I made a foray into moderately high priced CD with an early Adcom that was good per the technology ( as far as I could tell) but ultimately not very good from a sonic standard.
So I've mostly espressed distain for the CD medium by playing it through a succession of relative cheap DVD players, that frankly have improved each time I decided to fork out $200 (kind of).
Then comes Sacd and DVD Audio, and true to my vision, I wait for a cheap combo player (SACD, DVD A and DVD V).
On this cheap player now in hand (Pioneer 653 A) the HD audio formats clearly rival vinyl. *Great.
But here's the kick I think I hear: many CD's also sound much better.
Key example: No Doubt Saturn. *I bought No Doubt cause I thought they were lots of fun *The CD's turned out to be almost unplayable no matter how much I tried. *Very *much glare and very flat. *This is on the CD playback of a 1.5 year old cheapo Phillips DVD. *On the Pioneer the very same CD is a sonic marvel. *No glare, lots of quick. lots of presence (tho whether intended or not, the voices were not etched).
Wow how can this be. *Am I imagining this? Help me o wise ones.</font>