in a dead spot

[08op]

well i just got done doing the "crawl" and i think my listening position is a completly dead area. had pallidia playing and in computer room bass was insane with a song on, went out to listen out there and sounded like i turned the sub way down. is this why people get 2 subs? maybe its time to make my spare room into my ht, and do whatever i need to get great response.

[j_garcia]

Or adjust your seating position.

[08op]

i would but i have a 9.5' couch, not many places to move it.

[chris357]

i'm not sure if this is what you call the crawl, but I was told to put the sub where I am going to sit and then walk around the room until the bass sounds the best, then put the sub there.

[08op]

yes i did that crawl, even sitting on my couch if i lean forward i can notice a decrease in bass level.

[Pyrrho]

well i just got done doing the "crawl" and i think my listening position is a completly dead area. had pallidia playing and in computer room bass was insane with a song on, went out to listen out there and sounded like i turned the sub way down. is this why people get 2 subs? maybe its time to make my spare room into my ht, and do whatever i need to get great response.

Move your subwoofer. To find the best spot, put your subwoofer in your normal listening position, turn on your system and then crawl around the room until you find the spot that has the best sounding bass. Put the subwoofer there, and enjoy it in your normal listening position.


Two subwoofers, strategically located, can help eliminate null areas, but unless you are going to be listening in all areas, it is okay to have null areas in places where you will not be listening. Try the above first.

[08op]

if you read what you quoted that i wrote i did do the "crawl" , no offense.:rolleyes:

[Pyrrho]

if you read what you quoted that i wrote i did do the "crawl" , no offense.:rolleyes:

So, after putting the subwoofer in the normal listening position (i.e., the position of the couch), you can't hear it decently from anywhere in the room?

[chris357]

so did you put the sub where you sit and then crawl around to see where it sounded best? :D

[chris357]

i know get a verizon sub they have a more complete network with no dead spots

yeah its dumb but i could not resist :cool:

[moreira85]

same here, i play songs and in the next room bass sounds incredible. I go inton the listening area and sounds like i turned down the sub.

[j_garcia]

Is your room square-ish? That usually leads to the worst nulls, and the center of the room is going to be the worst. You may have a dip at a particular frequency and as a restult you notice it more. My old room was 19x20 and there was a definite null right at the seating position. In my current place, I had to move the couch around too.

If the crawl method's "best" spot doesn't work, try moving the sub around to see if you can improve things by putting it somewhere else. It is free to try.

[cwall99]

yeah its dumb but i could not resist :cool:

A world without a sense of humor is a crappy place. It's a hobby, well, for most of us it is, so it should be fun.

[chris357]

thank you I agree, and sometimes my inner 16 year old just cant keep it in. :)

[08op]

i knew someone would say verizon with my title. hahaha. yes did the crawl and the best spot was where i cant put my sub(go figure). the room is 19x11 with my couch 1/3 distance from front to back, which i thought was supposed to be an ideal spot.?. i mean i can still hear it and feel it but it sounds way better in my dining room, or even in that doorway. and 2 feet in front of my couch it sounds (to me) like i dont have a sub.:mad: PLEASE help me find my bass. thank you.

[chris357]

what kind of sub do you have? what power and ...

[08op]

what kind of sub do you have? what power and ...

klipsch rw12d, its 12" 340 watt ported. if you look in members systems my layout is in my thread" my attempt" .:)

[chris357]

I'm no expert but since you have the hard wood floors I bet that is playing havoc. you shoudl try one of those isolation pads for subs.. maybe try some carpet at first to see if that helps

[08op]

I'm no expert but since you have the hard wood floors I bet that is playing havoc. you shoudl try one of those isolation pads for subs.. maybe try some carpet at first to see if that helps


i have a gramma

[Tomorrow]

Say, did you try the crawl method? (Sorry, couldn't resist...j/k.)

If you can't put the sub in its ideal "crawl" location, then you should just move it around until it presents its best bass at the listening position. First try corners and also in a nearfield position (behind the couch perhaps).

Yes, a second sub (not co-located) can help minimize the nulls and help flatten the bass frequency response.

[08op]

well i'ma play with moving the sub around after i get a longer cable so i can try more than just the 2 front corners. if you put a sub nearfeild wouldnt that kinda kill the effect of having bass from the front? i mean i know bass is omnidirectional, but wouldnt it be easy to locate it that close to your seat?

[chris357]

I dont think it matters as long as you can hear it to your satisfaction.

[Tomorrow]

well i'ma play with moving the sub around after i get a longer cable so i can try more than just the 2 front corners. if you put a sub nearfeild wouldnt that kinda kill the effect of having bass from the front? i mean i know bass is omnidirectional, but wouldnt it be easy to locate it that close to your seat?

No, not the deep stuff. Bass starts becoming localizable ~>80 Hz. Try it and see.

[valvesnvinylfan]

No, not the deep stuff. Bass starts becoming localizable ~>80 Hz. Try it and see.

+1 on that; I had horrible placement options in my first digs and had to put the sub practically right next to the couch--about 2 ft. away from the left side. After I adjusted the xover I couldn't tell where the bass was coming from as it blended sooo nicely with the rest of my speaks. In fact, it was the best bass I ever had in some ways. Now I kinda miss my old place :(

[08op]

yeah i'll get a longer cable and mess with placment, but i like having subs in front. i even tried as hard as i could to put subs in the front when i did car stereos.