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FNG212
04-20-2009, 02:55 PM
Do I even dare start this thread?
Any advice welcome!
bandphan
04-20-2009, 03:15 PM
Do I even dare start this thread?
Any advice welcome!
No you shouldnt. You havent stated budget, room conditions, what Advice your looking for ect.......
shenaniganz
04-20-2009, 03:21 PM
when in doubt use the search key.
or
The plasma vs lcd debate for 09 (http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51730&highlight=plasma+lcd)
maybe even
Plasma vs. LCD - which is better (http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42776&highlight=plasma+debate)
:D
rekced
04-22-2009, 03:42 PM
Do I even dare start this thread?
Any advice welcome!
Plasma if you have it in you to care about anything to do with PQ.
LCD if you prefer the warm fuzzies of marketing gimmicks. Hope you like backlight bleed and motion enhancement.
quicke60
04-23-2009, 04:29 PM
In the larger sizes the power consumption of the Plasmas start to substantially exceed the LCD's. Not sure if you guys care about that kind of stuff, but my apartment becomes pretty damn hot running a 52" TV and Xbox so I'd be concerned...
lsiberian
04-23-2009, 04:37 PM
Plasma if you have it in you to care about anything to do with PQ.
LCD if you prefer the warm fuzzies of marketing gimmicks. Hope you like backlight bleed and motion enhancement.
What if his room is full of ambient light?
lsiberian
04-23-2009, 04:38 PM
In the larger sizes the power consumption of the Plasmas start to substantially exceed the LCD's. Not sure if you guys care about that kind of stuff, but my apartment becomes pretty damn hot running a 52" TV and Xbox so I'd be concerned...
You need a fan.
rekced
04-25-2009, 06:39 AM
In the larger sizes the power consumption of the Plasmas start to substantially exceed the LCD's. Not sure if you guys care about that kind of stuff, but my apartment becomes pretty damn hot running a 52" TV and Xbox so I'd be concerned...
Not sure if you would care about this kind of stuff, but.....
Panasonic TH-58PZ800U (58'' Plasma)
196 watts average
0.14 watts per square inch
$60.78 cost to run annually based on 8 hours of running time per day
Sony KDL-46W4100 (46'' LCD)
269 watts average
0.30 watts per square inch
$83.36 cost to run annually based on 8 hours of running time per day
More info here
http://reviews.cnet.com/tv-power-consumption/
The bottom line is that technology changes, not all electronic parts are equal, nor do they all have the same inherent characteristics. Finding a TV that is cool and energy efficient is not as simple as choosing LCD or plasma.
Btw - Your 52'' TV is probably LCD. Now I've seen it all. Not only do people knock new plasmas with old plasma horror stories, they even use stories of hot LCDs against them. Plasma has no chance!
rekced
04-25-2009, 06:57 AM
What if his room is full of ambient light?
People with a lot of ambient light don't care about the picture quality of the television, otherwise they'd cover the windows or find a room suitable for TV watching.
Besides, LCDs give up more in dark rooms than plasmas do in bright rooms.
lsiberian
04-25-2009, 11:11 AM
People with a lot of ambient light don't care about the picture quality of the television, otherwise they'd cover the windows or find a room suitable for TV watching.
Besides, LCDs give up more in dark rooms than plasmas do in bright rooms.
It's difficult to make general statements like this every technology has it's plus and minuses. Myths are a plenty, But most guys don't get to pick their living room, the lighting, or the lighting control. LCDs by no means look bad either. It's a relative statement that says so. If LCDs were so bad then why are they used in some of the best PJs. I think when selecting a TV you gotta consider budget and size. Then make your pick accordingly. Plasma has it's issues just like LCD. Personally I would just buy an LED DLP tv and screw the debate.
Thunder18
04-25-2009, 04:14 PM
QUOTE=rekced;557987]Not sure if you would care about this kind of stuff, but.....
Panasonic TH-58PZ800U (58'' Plasma)
196 watts average
0.14 watts per square inch
$60.78 cost to run annually based on 8 hours of running time per day
Sony KDL-46W4100 (46'' LCD)
269 watts average
0.30 watts per square inch
$83.36 cost to run annually based on 8 hours of running time per day
More info here
http://reviews.cnet.com/tv-power-consumption/
The bottom line is that technology changes, not all electronic parts are equal, nor do they all have the same inherent characteristics. Finding a TV that is cool and energy efficient is not as simple as choosing LCD or plasma.
Btw - Your 52'' TV is probably LCD. Now I've seen it all. Not only do people knock new plasmas with old plasma horror stories, they even use stories of hot LCDs against them. Plasma has no chance![/QUOTE]
Make sure you post the after calibration results too:
Panasonic TH-58PZ800U Picture settings
Default Calibrated Power Save
Picture on (watts) 196.37 363.45
Picture on (watts/sq. inch) 0.14 0.25
Standby (watts) 0 0
Cost per year $60.78 $112.50
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-viera-th-58pz800u/4505-6482_7-33234548.html
Sony KDL-46W410 Picture settings
Default Calibrated Power Save
Picture on (watts) 274.43 140 96.4
Picture on (watts/sq. inch) 0.3 0.15 0.11
Standby (watts) 0.85 0.85 0.85
Cost per year $85.47 $43.86 $30.36
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-46w4100/4505-6482_7-32815337.html
Both sets of specs were pulled directly from CNET and can be verified at the links I posted below each set of specs from CNET's Juicebox stats.
Both reviews were done by David Katzmaier. The Panasonic on 10/3/2008, the Sony on 6/4/2008.
annunaki
04-25-2009, 05:25 PM
In all honesty, if someone is purchasing a television based upon how much electricity it consumes, they have their priorities goofed up.
Many make it seem like one's electric bill will go through the roof. Most (Plasma or LCD) if not all are equivalent or better than a CRT set for power consumption.
If a set is going to offer me a superb picture, and is only a $30.00 per year difference for an additional 12 diagonal inches, who cares?
This is like comparing a Neon SRT 4 vs. a V-8 Ferrari F430. Sure one costs more and consumes a bit more but look at what one gets in return!!! :D :eek:
bandphan
04-25-2009, 07:01 PM
In all honesty, if someone is purchasing a television based upon how much electricity it consumes, they have their priorities goofed up.
Many make it seem like one's electric bill will go through the roof. Most (Plasma or LCD) if not all are eq. uivalent or better than a CRT set for power consumption.
If a set is going to offer me a superb picture, and is only a $30.00 per year difference for an additional 12 diagonal inches, who cares?
This is like comparing a Neon SRT 4 vs. a V-8 Ferrari F430. Sure one costs more and consumes a bit more but look at what one gets in return!!! :D :eek:
At least one of my displays stays on for the dogs during the day so I just feed one of them less to make up for the utilities. :D
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