AV Rant #109: CES09

[admin]

Live from the show, Clint and Tom report on the press events so far, some of the overarching themes, and how CES is changing. Before you start groaning, don't worry, Dina participated in the podcast as well and offers her unique perspective. Some of the topics include Panasonic's partnership with James Cameron. LG's wireless TV. Monster Cables admits they are wrong... sort of. Oh, and Toshiba's definition of what the customer wants and why we think they are asking the wrong people. Listen in for all this and much more.
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Discuss "AV Rant #109: CES09" here. Read the article (http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/av-rant-109-ces09).

[mike c]

hey, im at CES too! but my feet are toast. im back at my hotel room putting my feet up.

[The Dukester]

hey, im at CES too! but my feet are toast. im back at my hotel room putting my feet up.

Wuss! Man up and get back out there!:D

[allargon]

What happened to the download link for AV Rant #110 CES 2009 pt 2?

http://www.avrant.com/?p=451

[KenC]

Comment on the 110 podcast:

120 Hz is not the same as motion interpolation. 120 Hz by itself is not a bad thing and (for instance) allows the display to correctly show 24P content without pulldown.

It's when you enable the motion interpolation option that things go wonky. Samsung calls theirs "Auto Motion Plus". I've done the dog and pony show for several people and have yet to find someone who likes the effect. At best it looks abnormally smooth and "fake" - "Soap Operaish" is what one called it. At worst it introduces glaring motion errors. Honestly, I don't care how "good" this tech gets, I don't want it. Give me 24P over that crap any day. If 120 unique frames are so great, RECORD in 120P then.

120Hz is significant since it is the lowest refresh that allows 60i and 24P to be shown correctly. Only God knows what the heck we need 240Hz for.

But, spread the word. 120Hz = good. Motion interpolation = questionable at best.

[Clint DeBoer]

The problem is, finding 120Hz without motion interpolation is extremely rare... I certainly can't find it in most of these displays. The industry has made 120Hz synonymous with frame interpolation. Very few companies are doing any blanking (Panasonic is one company that is the exception) because it reduces light output as a result. Samsung does both interpolation AND blanking, but you can actually turn one, the other, or both off.

240Hz was simply a joke at the Sony booth. A horrendous demo that did them no good in my opinion.

[highfigh]

120Hz is significant since it is the lowest refresh that allows 60i and 24P to be shown correctly. Only God knows what the heck we need 240Hz for.

Because this is America and more is better.

[mike c]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3325.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3326.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3327.jpg

too bad JL did not display their home subs
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3328.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3329.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3330.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3331.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3341.jpg

omg, giant analog meters
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3343.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/th_CIMG3345.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/?action=view&current=CIMG3345.flv)

[Clint DeBoer]

Dude, you've really got to turn off that date function on your camera! lol

Great pics!

[mperfct]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ces%202009/CIMG3341.jpg



I didn't know Optimus Prime was going to be there. :rolleyes:

[Clint DeBoer]

You should have seen him transform!

For the price, they should be robots that can serve you drnks and food...

[cfrizz]

The more money they cost the fuglier they get!

[MidnightSensi]

I heard CES is pretty dead this year

[mike c]

Dude, you've really got to turn off that date function on your camera! lol

Great pics!

and those are philippine date stamps too :D