Listening to 1 Tetrabyte of Uncompressed Music via USB Port

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Wow!

No more need for a Juke Box or Server or 500 CD changer for high quality uncompressed 2.0 Music.

And you DON'T even need to hook up the receiver to the Internet or a Computer!

All you need is a external portable Hard Drive connected to a Denon receiver via USB.

With a tetrabyte hard drive, you could store 1300 CDs (each CD 750MB) of uncompressed 2.0 Ch 48 kHz/16 Bit WAV music files.

Finally, the Denon receiver converts the 48 Khz/16 Bit music to 96 kHz/24 Bit music.

[Adam]

Do you mean terabyte? :)

[jamie2112]

Tetrabyte is a new fish I have been told....:D That is sweet ADTG nice to know...tetra is a fish tera is a byte..:D

[davidtwotrees]

What kind of GUI? Does it osd the library with artwork from Gracenote?

[Gimpy Ric]

AcuDefTechDude - Did you get your new super duper Denon 5308CI receiver? Your so lucky, I want one, can we share? That thing is the bomb from what I've read. Enjoy :)!

[Warpdrv]

What kind of GUI? Does it osd the library with artwork from Gracenote?


+1, could you snap off some pics of the music interface... ?


It really is nice to stream music and movies, I have been doing that for 8 years now since I hacked my Xbox, and I have a D-link dual hd NAS with 2 terabytes in it... It sure is nice to have whole house network abilites.

[Hi Ho]

I've been doing this for a couple years. My Yamaha RX-V2700 streams music off my PC over my network. I could just as easily connect an external hard drive to the USB port if I wanted too. All of the music is stored in .WAV format and it performs flawlessly. The Yamaha GUI is intuitive and looks nice.

[itschris]

I'm doing that with my 94, but the interface blows and it's much nicer on the Dennon from what I hear.

AcuDefTechGuy's got the setup!

[allargon]

Wow!

No more need for a Juke Box or Server or 500 CD changer for high quality uncompressed 2.0 Music.

And you DON'T even need to hook up the receiver to the Internet or a Computer!

All you need is a external portable Hard Drive connected to a Denon receiver via USB.

With a tetrabyte hard drive, you could store 1300 CDs (each CD 750MB) of uncompressed 2.0 Ch 48 kHz/16 Bit WAV music files.

Finally, the Denon receiver converts the 48 Khz/16 Bit music to 96 kHz/24 Bit music.

You mean 44.1kHz/16bit for your CD's, right? :p I have quite a few components that can play mp3's and wma's directly from a USB drive, but I'm not sure if they will play the WAV files. (I know my BH200 didn't like those unpacked 96/24 DVD-A's I tried to give it.)

If you guys keep expanding audio into computerdom, I will have to start listing USB stick and external USB drive sales (like the 1TB Seagate USB for $149.99 or the barbones 1TB Samsung for $109) in my weekly Fry's thread.

Personally, I don't like a receiver integrating what should be the function of a component into it. However, many people think pre-amps, amplifiers, processors and tuners should be in four separate units. So, maybe I'm just ignoring the future.

[itschris]

You mean 44.1kHz/16bit for your CD's, right? :p I have quite a few components that can play mp3's and wma's directly from a USB drive, but I'm not sure if they will play the WAV files. (I know my BH200 didn't like those unpacked 96/24 DVD-A's I tried to give it.)

If you guys keep expanding audio into computerdom, I will have to start listing USB stick and external USB drive sales (like the 1TB Seagate USB for $149.99 or the barbones 1TB Samsung for $109) in my weekly Fry's thread.

Personally, I don't like a receiver integrating what should be the function of a component into it. However, many people think pre-amps, amplifiers, processors and tuners should be in four separate units. So, maybe I'm just ignoring the future.

I definately think the days of seperates are on the way out. Personally, I love seperates. Even though I have a fairly capable receiver, I still like using a seperate amp. I like seeing stacks of equipment. My goal is to have monoblocks for each channel pumping through individual preamps. A waste? Sure, but it sure does look cool.

At the same time though, I really like the idea of an HTPC. It's kinda hard to deny the value of a really good HTPC and media server in your system. The Media Center interface is pretty slick and I think they'll only make it better.

One day I imagine the highest end system will just be a computer... it seems their essentially that already.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Do you mean terabyte? :)

Damn it.:D

[AcuDefTechGuy]

What kind of GUI? Does it osd the library with artwork from Gracenote?

I don't know what that means, but the art work I see is not that great looking:

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[AcuDefTechGuy]

AcuDefTechDude - Did you get your new super duper Denon 5308CI receiver? Your so lucky, I want one, can we share? That thing is the bomb from what I've read. Enjoy :)!

Yeah, I got it Friday. I'm still trying to figure it out.:D

I got the HD radio and USB figured out. I got the component configurations figured out. Well, I think I got most things that I care about figured out.

The one thing I gave up on for now is the WiFi. I think there is something wrong with my home PC network.

[itschris]

Now that's slick! One of the big complaints against the 94 was the pedestrian OSD. I didn't care at all at first, but now it does sorda bug me.

Dennon definately did that right.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Now that's slick! One of the big complaints against the 94 was the pedestrian OSD. I didn't care at all at first, but now it does sorda bug me.

Dennon definately did that right.

Well, most of the time I don't even turn on the TV. I make a Favorites folder and put my 30 favorite songs in it and just play from there.

I guess that album art is "cool", but it's really no big deal if you don't have it.

I wonder if there is a ripping software that will provide a better resolution album art. I used the Windows Media player to rip WAV files, and I think the album art is not that great looking. Or maybe I'm too picky?:D

[GlocksRock]

did you format the hard drive as FAT 32 or NTFS?

[AcuDefTechGuy]

did you format the hard drive as FAT 32 or NTFS?

It's FAT 32.

Why, is yours NTFS?

[GlocksRock]

I dont have a network receiver, I just stream music to my PS3 or xbox 360 from my media PC that has 2 NTFS formatted drives. The only drive I have that has FAT 32 on it is a hard drive I keep at work to listen to music with, and I have a separate partition on it that is FAT 32 so I can use it to backup my PS3 hard drives.

I was just curious to see if your receiver would work with a NTFS drive.

[itschris]

Well, most of the time I don't even turn on the TV. I make a Favorites folder and put my 30 favorite songs in it and just play from there.

I guess that album art is "cool", but it's really no big deal if you don't have it.

I wonder if there is a ripping software that will provide a better resolution album art. I used the Windows Media player to rip WAV files, and I think the album art is not that great looking. Or maybe I'm too picky?:D

I was just gonna ask you about what you use to rip your WAVs. I was thinking of doing all mine in FLAC, but thinking about how cheap hd's are, why even bother.

I wonder if MediaMonkey does WAV's I can't get on their site from work because we block all MP3 stuff.

[nasd90]

One word... AppleTV.


Rules.

Wireless. Extremely clean interface.


nasd90

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I was just gonna ask you about what you use to rip your WAVs. I was thinking of doing all mine in FLAC, but thinking about how cheap hd's are, why even bother.

I wonder if MediaMonkey does WAV's I can't get on their site from work because we block all MP3 stuff.

I use the Windows Media Player to Rip WAV files.

Uncompressed all the way baby!!!:D

Yeah, one TERAbyte HD only costs $148:

http://www.amazon.com/LaCie-FireWire-External-Poulton-301315U/dp/B00170M64K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1227052150&sr=1-2

[GlocksRock]

You coulda got it for less at Newegg.com! I'm going to replace my 300 gig drive with either a 750 gig, or a 1 TB drive pretty soon. Just don't have the money for it yet.

[goodman]

Can you USB a hard disc drive to a Denon 4308?

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Can you USB a hard disc drive to a Denon 4308?

Yes you can. I think it also works with the 3808CI.

[ahender]

What would be the process for music selection if you had a USB drive hooked up to your Denon?

Can you select an entire folder?

thanks..alan

[adwilk]

Just an FYI... anybody looking to use the USB interface with their receiver, ps3, ABSOLUTELY MUST format the drive using FAT32. NTFS is a pc based formatting system that non-pc devices cant read. The biggest drawback, Fat32 cant handle files larger than 4gb. I havent yet figured out how to store HD movies for my ps3, tv, or receiver to handle other than streaming...

[AcuDefTechGuy]

What would be the process for music selection if you had a USB drive hooked up to your Denon?

Can you select an entire folder?

thanks..alan

Yes.

For example. I put all my favorite songs on the Folder name "Favorite Pop Music". Then I select this folder and select the first song on this folder and it plays the entire folder.

You can also do Random play and Repeat Play so that it will repeat/randomize all the songs within this folder.

Totally cool.:cool:

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Just an FYI... anybody looking to use the USB interface with their receiver, ps3, ABSOLUTELY MUST format the drive using FAT32. NTFS is a pc based formatting system that non-pc devices cant read. The biggest drawback, Fat32 cant handle files larger than 4gb. I havent yet figured out how to store HD movies for my ps3, tv, or receiver to handle other than streaming...

I can confirm this as well.

I tried a NTFS hard drive and it would not work.

But my 1TB FAT32 hard drive works perfectly.

So do NOT format your hard drive to NTFS!

[itschris]

I can confirm this as well.

I tried a NTFS hard drive and it would not work.

But my 1TB FAT32 hard drive works perfectly.

So do NOT format your hard drive to NTFS!

I know you ripped all your stuff in wav...uncompressed and lossless. How do you tag your stuff? I started ripping my stuff the same way instead of FLAC and I was just told you don't have all the tag options. I didn't even bother checking. What are you doing for that?

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I know you ripped all your stuff in wav...uncompressed and lossless. How do you tag your stuff? I started ripping my stuff the same way instead of FLAC and I was just told you don't have all the tag options. I didn't even bother checking. What are you doing for that?

You mean it didn't recognize the album cover, name, song titles, etc.?

Are you using Windows Media Player 10 or 11?

I didn't even mess with the Tag Options. But I guess I should check that out.:D

When I rip the CDs, it just automatically recognizes the Album Cover Art, Album Name, Artist Name, Song Titles & Length.

[dobyblue]

You can give up on the WiFi, but you could still stream directly from your PC through ethernet to the 5308CI. That way you don't have to go to FAT, you can use NTFS.

The best thing about the Denon is you don't need to go uncompressed .wav, you can stream .flac files. None of the other receivers support .flac. If I had all the stuff on my 1TB drive in .wav format I'd be well over 1TB. Uncompressed mon, it's a waste of de space!

Unfortunately you can't stream 24-bit audio files regardless of whether you're using USB or Ethernet/Wifi, only 16-bit, which kinda put me off because a lot of the tapers these days record in 24-bit (live DMB shows for example) at 48/88.2/96/176.4 or 192 kHz. I wish they had added support for that, I would have been a lot more likely to try and get the Denon I wanted instead of settling, for now, for the TX-SR805.

As it goes I have to burn all my 24-bit shows to DVD-Audio, so the ability to stream audio as a concern kinda went out the window with the inability to do 24-bit.

I do use 1TB of storage though, but it's internal. In fact, and you should keep this in mind, I use 2 @ 1TB drives running in RAID1 for redundancy of data. I'm at around 550GB right now, so when I fill up I'll just add 2 more 1TB drives. Whenever one fails, I'll shut down the PC until it's replaced and then it'll immediately be mirrored. There is years of collecting music in those drives, I'm far too scared to keep them just on one HDD.

[GlocksRock]

None of the other receivers support .flac.

The new Pioneer receiver supports flac, at least that's what I read in the latest Sound and Vision mag.

I personally don't use .flac because most of the software I have doesn't support it, and I can't burn .flac cd's to listen to in my car. But when I download music, I get it in .flac if possible, then I rip it to .mp3 in VBR for the best possible .mp3 quality, as that is better than 192k .mp3 files. But now that I have my 1 TB drive in my main PC, storage space is no longer a concern. I picked it up from newegg.com for $99 shipped, can't beat it.

[dobyblue]

The new Pioneer receiver supports flac, at least that's what I read in the latest Sound and Vision mag.
Cool - now only if they'd add DSD>Analog outside of the Susano!

I personally don't use .flac because most of the software I have doesn't support it, and I can't burn .flac cd's to listen to in my car.
EAC or Nero will burn an audio CD for you converting on the fly.
But when I download music, I get it in .flac if possible

As do I - when a CD is ripped using EAC with a .log and .cue file you can burn a CD using EAC or Nero that will be a bit-for-bit exact copy of the original CD.

Flac is the best format for archiving your audio.

[GlocksRock]

when I burn a cd, I want it to be an .mp3 cd so I don't have to carry around a super large cd book in my car.