is a blu-ray dvd player as good in performing audio cds as is a normal cd player?

[mustaine]

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is a blu-ray dvd player as good in performing audio cds as is a normal cd player?

thanks

[tcarcio]

All BD or HD players play cd's as good as any good quality player. Just not sacd's........

[walter duque]

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is a blu-ray dvd player as good in performing audio cds as is a normal cd player?

thanks

My opinion-not even close. Sold a Camelot Round table, Nakamichi DVD 10S, Nakamichi dvd-15 with great regret. And on top of that I sold these units very cheap to go to Blue-Ray. Like I said that's my opinion and my weak link in my system.

[itschris]

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is a blu-ray dvd player as good in performing audio cds as is a normal cd player?

thanks

The way you put it... yes. Good quality BD play to normal good quality CD player... you shouldn't notice any difference. I can tell you that my Oppo DVD player does sound different than my old standby Adcom disc player. I don't really know what the difference is... can't put my finger on it... but it's different. I wouldn't say better or worse... just a tad bit different sounding.

I've never had a really high end disc player, so I can't speak to that coparison, but I'm sure others will chime in. One of the things I'm currently deciding is getting a new high disc player vs building my HTPC. I'm not sure how a digital file from a well built HTPC would compare to the high end disc player.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Before I sold my Denon DVD-5910CI (retails $3800), I did a little comparison one last time just for my own good. I compared the 5910CI with the Denon Blu-ray DVD-3800BDCI ($2000) and a lowly Sony DVD changer ($130). I listened to my favorite CDs (2Ch). As hard as I tried to hear a difference, especially between a $3800 player and a $130 player, I could NOT hear any difference whatsoever. But that's just me.:D

I suppose someone else might have been able to hear a difference.:D

[ParadigmDawg]

I wonder if decent, accurate speakers would help?

I know, I know....give it a rest....Before I sold my Denon DVD-5910CI (retails $3800), I did a little comparison one last time just for my own good. I compared the 5910CI with the Denon Blu-ray DVD-3800BDCI ($2000) and a lowly Sony DVD changer ($130). I listened to my favorite CDs (2Ch). As hard as I tried to hear a difference, especially between a $3800 player and a $130 player, I could NOT hear any difference whatsoever. But that's just me.:D

I suppose someone else might have been able to hear a difference.:D

[Adam]

I wonder if decent, accurate speakers would help?

Man, you beat me to it! Hee, hee. :D

J/K, of course, AcuDefTechGuy. You've got a nice system there.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I wonder if decent, accurate speakers would help?

I know, I know....give it a rest....

...You RAT A$$.:D

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Man, you beat me to it! Hee, hee. :D

J/K, of course, AcuDefTechGuy. You've got a nice system there.

You RAT A$$.:D

[Spkr_Bldr]

I wonder if decent, accurate speakers would help?

Haha ... zing!

It takes a complete room/gear system being near ideal before you can start to hear things like differences in digital transports. But once you get there, you start hearing differences in everything.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Haha ... zing!

It takes a complete room/gear system being near ideal before you can start to hear things like differences in digital transports. But once you get there, you start hearing differences in everything.

You need to build a speaker that does 20 Hz - 20 kHz +/- 1dB, and then I'll buy five ($4K x 5 = $20K). Plus make a Subwoofer that does 10 Hz - 150 Hz +/- 3dB, and then I'll buy one ($2K).:D

[Adam]

But once you get there, you start hearing differences in everything.

The audible fizz of carbonation in my beer took on a whole new level of transparency once I started using point-loaded bottle isolators. They were expensive, but I don't think that I could ever go back to a regular cozy.

[ParadigmDawg]

Good thing I have an acoustic nightmare of a room then. I don't want to buy another CD player:DHaha ... zing!

It takes a complete room/gear system being near ideal before you can start to hear things like differences in digital transports. But once you get there, you start hearing differences in everything.

[walter duque]

Before I sold my Denon DVD-5910CI (retails $3800), I did a little comparison one last time just for my own good. I compared the 5910CI with the Denon Blu-ray DVD-3800BDCI ($2000) and a lowly Sony DVD changer ($130). I listened to my favorite CDs (2Ch). As hard as I tried to hear a difference, especially between a $3800 player and a $130 player, I could NOT hear any difference whatsoever. But that's just me.:D

I suppose someone else might have been able to hear a difference.:D

On low to mid volume it is not that noticable, but when you realy crank it, it does'nt seem to have that fire, you know when you're eyes light up and you just say wow, this s..t is kicking.

[AcuDefTechGuy]

On low to mid volume it is not that noticable, but when you realy crank it, it does'nt seem to have that fire, you know when you're eyes light up and you just say wow, this s..t is kicking.

Well, it's no wonder then. I never listen at volume greater than 85dB.:D

Even when the wife and kids are not at home. I'm always afraid I might damage my precious hearing or something.:D

[Adam]

I'm always afraid I might damage my precious hearing or something.:D

[Waits for P-Dawg's humorous remark about speakers in regards to your precious hearing going to waste. :)]

[Spkr_Bldr]

Good thing I have an acoustic nightmare of a room then. I don't want to buy another CD player:D

Hey man, I hear ya ... it's a never-ending cycle. I know my system is better than ever, but that doesn't necessarily mean I enjoy it more than ever. I enjoyed it just as much years ago, many levels of resolution less than I have now. If you're happy with what you have, no matter what that is, money can be much better spent on many other things.

In fact, in some ways I enjoy my high-end system less than I have in the past. I find myself listening critically too much, to music I don't necessarily like just because it's a good recording. Peeling paint off the walls with some Megadeth or Tool is much more enjoyable :cool:

[AcuDefTechGuy]

[Waits for P-Dawg's humorous remark about speakers in regards to your precious hearing going to waste. :)]

It might take him a while on this one.:eek:

....................................Still nothing.............................:D

[mtrycrafts]

I suppose someone else might have been able to hear a difference.:D

That would be a good supposition to test:D But, I doubt the outcome would be different. The $ensible Sound or rather one of their authors did a DBT some time back between an $80 RCA carousel player and CD players costing $1000s. Outcome was null.:D
But, who knows, maybe on a Sunday, it would have had a different outcome;):D

[mtrycrafts]

Haha ... zing!

It takes a complete room/gear system being near ideal before you can start to hear things like differences in digital transports. But once you get there, you start hearing differences in everything.

I really wonder even about that since the implication is that our hearing capacity has no limits or short comings which it has a great deal, actually:

http://www.vxm.com/21R.64.html

But, I'd take a look at some supporting evidence of it:D

[mtrycrafts]

Hi
is a blu-ray dvd player as good in performing audio cds as is a normal cd player?

thanks

Why would there be one? How would you be connecting them?

[walter duque]

Well, it's no wonder then. I never listen at volume greater than 85dB.:D

Even when the wife and kids are not at home. I'm always afraid I might damage my precious hearing or something.:D

I do like to turn it up to around 110-115 db now and then, but only for a few minutes.

[Gimpy Ric]

Lonnie over at Emotiva is building this insane new CD Player. Seperate power supplies for just about everything that needs electricity in it. Can you you tell a difference? You be the judge.

I have a Sony 400 disk CD/DVD changer and a Sony Blu ray DVD player and they are both HDMI, and I can't tell a difference in the sound.

Ric

[PENG]

I do like to turn it up to around 110-115 db now and then, but only for a few minutes.

The only time I had it up above 100 dB was when I was measuring the peak current using classical music CDs. Other than those momentarily bass drums or cannon shots there is no way I can withstand even 85 dB of steady SPL that you get from rock/jazz type of music. I actually find it painful to listen at that kind of level. I cannot understand how anyone can stand 110 to 115 dB for any more than a few seconds.

[walter duque]

The only time I had it up above 100 dB was when I was measuring the peak current using classical music CDs. Other than those momentarily bass drums or cannon shots there is no way I can withstand even 85 dB of steady SPL that you get from rock/jazz type of music. I actually find it painful to listen at that kind of level. I cannot understand how anyone can stand 110 to 115 dB for any more than a few seconds.

That' why I am half deaf. I just get a thrill from that sound pressure since I can't hear anything anyway. On New Years Eve last year after a few beers I actually had it up to 127 db.

[PENG]

The only time I hear a difference is from a cheap multi region one. For some reasons if I use that thing to play a CD the sound quality will be about in par with the FM tuner except the bass is even worse than FM. If I use it to play DVD movies and music videos then it would sound seemingly as good as my Denon 3910.

I also have a high end Kenwood CD player (yes it was somewhat high end) that has 7 power supplies in it and weighs about 20 lbs and it does not seem to sound any different than my $60 philip DVD player.

[PENG]

That' why I am half deaf. I just get a thrill from that sound pressure since I can't hear anything anyway. On New Years Eve last year after a few beers I actually had it up to 127 db.

I am sure you are just kidding about being half deaf:D, but do you have neighbors? Just curious, how much amp power do you have? Unless you are in a small room with Klipsch speakers you must have at least 1000 WPC plus 3 to 6 dB headroom on hand!!

[walter duque]

I am sure you are just kidding about being half deaf:D, but do you have neighbors? Just curious, how much amp power do you have? Unless you are in a small room with Klipsch speakers you must have at least 1000 WPC plus 3 to 6 dB headroom on hand!!
Right now I am living in an apartment since I am going trough a divorce and my hometheater is in my wifes house at them moment which I am fighting for dearly. I run a Cinepro 3k6 and Cinepro 1k2, 2 power towers 400 watts, 1 1000 watt front firing sub 12" active 12" passive, 1 down-firing sub 400 watts, good center bridged 350+350, designated rear towers and WTW rear surrounds. I do miss my 2 15" Isobaric subs which I drive with 2 AB International Amps bridged 1160 Watts. My speakers I have build in Conneticut, all hand made with wool carbon drivers, these babies don't give up, you give the power they give'em back without ever flintching. Best driver I have ever owned. Not you're regular store drivers, these things are just incredible. And yes I must be half deaf, my first pair of LOUD LOUD speakers where Altec Lansing Voice of the Theater and that was in the sixties.

[jostenmeat]

The only time I had it up above 100 dB was when I was measuring the peak current using classical music CDs. Other than those momentarily bass drums or cannon shots there is no way I can withstand even 85 dB of steady SPL that you get from rock/jazz type of music. I actually find it painful to listen at that kind of level. I cannot understand how anyone can stand 110 to 115 dB for any more than a few seconds.

I understand your thoughts on 115db, but I recently am borrowing my friend's Allison Krause + Union Station live recording, and I was curious about the level I was listening to. 85db slow C weight was where it was hanging out at. And I listen even louder with HT. *shrug*

[PENG]

I understand your thoughts on 115db, but I recently am borrowing my friend's Allison Krause + Union Station live recording, and I was curious about the level I was listening to. 85db slow C weight was where it was hanging out at. And I listen even louder with HT. *shrug*

Yes I was using C weighting too, and I also have that DVD but I think I would be more comfortable with 80 dB.

[itschris]

How do you think a good quality cd player stacks up against a solid HTPC... not one with some crazy $1K pro sound card, but one with a solid SoundBlaster type and lossless WMA's or FLAC rips?

[Cpt.America]

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is a blu-ray dvd player as good in performing audio cds as is a normal cd player?


What is a "blue-ray dvd player"?