The Yamaha RX 1800 didnt work out! [Archive] - Audioholics Home Theater Forums

ParadigmDawg

07-17-2008, 05:31 PM

You bet, they will be yours.

Awww...the sound of Pure Direct again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Good luck with that whole situation! BTW, could you bequeath those to me in case you get dismembered? ;)

Mike

speakerman39

07-17-2008, 06:18 PM

Yep, 100's. I just told her via email and she is way more mad than I thought she would be:eek:
Geez Greg, you may be in big trouble. :eek::eek: Oh well, if you get kicked out I have an extra room..........LOL!!!!!! :p:p No seriously, congrats on the purchase my friend.

Cheers,

Phil

mike c

07-17-2008, 06:46 PM

nice. you showed her who's the man.

now, enjoy yourself before she gets home. :)

croseiv

07-17-2008, 06:49 PM

Wow man! Very nice. Yeah, you know, I'm stuggling with that very thing. I want to get a BD player, but I sure would like to get a new Emo 3 or 5 channel amp too(plus the BD player), . Problem is, I will have a hard time explaining what the amp is....but I'm REAL close to buying.

speakerman39

07-17-2008, 06:50 PM

nice. you showed her who's the man.

now, enjoy yourself before she gets home. :)
LOL...too funny Mike. :p:p The countdown has already begun........LOL!!!! :eek::eek:

Cheers,

Phil

ParadigmDawg

07-18-2008, 07:09 AM

I would like to respond to the comments but I have been killed!!!!!!!

AcuDefTechGuy

07-18-2008, 09:05 AM

Congratulations on those awesome looking TOWERS!!!:D

The way I see it, you work hard, you make the money, and you deserve every bit of it!:)

Just tell her that I make less money than you do and yet I buy more expensive stuffs than you. And my wife is fine with it.:D

You only live ONCE!!!

LIVE IT.

ENJOY IT.

I would say, "Honey, I know you're angry I bought these speakers. It's just that I've been dreaming of these speakers for the last 15 years. I promise you that I won't buy another speaker for another 15 years. I just feel like I've been through a lot with my career. Do you feel I deserve this reward? Because if this makes you very unhappy, I will take it back.":D

adk highlander

07-18-2008, 09:25 AM

Good to see there a few brave men left in this world! Stand up for what you believe! Buy what you want and damn the consequences!!!

I can be brave my wife does not come to the forum.;)

You know you still have to upgrade the AVR? Did you trade in the 40's?

GlocksRock

07-18-2008, 09:48 AM

Yeah, what did you do with your other speakers? Did you sell them to finance your new speakers, or are you going to sell them so you can get the RX-V1800?

Matt34

07-18-2008, 09:50 AM

Yep, 100's. I just told her via email and she is way more mad than I thought she would be:eek:

I did that when I bought my motorcycle, same result.;)

Good to see there a few brave men left in this world! Stand up for what you believe! Buy what you want and damn the consequences!!!

I can be brave my wife does not come to the forum.;)

You know you still have to upgrade the AVR? Did you trade in the 40's?

Brave or stupid, I haven't decided how I would classified it.:D

Davemcc

07-18-2008, 10:00 AM

Have you been able to A/B them against the 40's? My Paradigm shop has very poor listening spaces and I haven't been able to hear the Studio line properly. If I'm correct, they use many of the same components, so they should have similar characteristics, but the 100's would have fuller midrange and lower extension. Any other comments?

audioman00

07-18-2008, 10:24 AM

those are SEXY!!! :eek::D

Nomo

07-18-2008, 02:01 PM

I would like to respond to the comments but I have been killed!!!!!!!

Nice Speakers!!

Sorry you had to die.

Are the boxes they came in big enough to hold your body?
Who says you can't take it with you.:)

Dezoris

07-18-2008, 03:56 PM

Could have just settled for a nice home theater in a box and made her happy.

ParadigmDawg

07-18-2008, 07:20 PM

Well, after she got home last night, I just grabbed her, said lets go out for drinks and a nice meal before we discuss the new additions. In the end, she really wasnt mad, she said I just should have discussed it with her first. I asked her what she would have said and she said, "I would have told you no".

Today, she made a comment that the new speakers sound really nice and she thinks they look good.

My local dealer that I use for all my gear bought my 40's back from me at full MSRP which is more than I paid for them over a year ago. All in all, I was paid about 300 bucks to use his 40's for the year!

I was able to A/B the speakers and yes, the 100's are fuller in the midrange and play much lower. They really seem to fill out my big room a lot better and seem more detailed. I am still playing around with the set up but they seem pretty good with a small amount of toe-in and crossed over at 60hz. I have listened to them mostly without the sub today and they play deep and even vibrate my couch quite a bit. Movie testing will be tonight with Master and Commander on BD.

mudrummer99

07-18-2008, 09:20 PM

Proof positive that it is better to ask forgiveness than permission. :D Congrats on avoiding the funeral and on the new speakers.

Mike

AcuDefTechGuy

07-19-2008, 12:47 PM

Greg, so how much did you pay out-of-pocket for the Studio 100 system?

Do they sound better in your acoustically treated room than @ the dealer or do they sound the same?

I was very unhappy with the Studio 100s at my local dealer, but then again we're talking about small-time Oklahoma here, not the Big-D.:D

fox

07-19-2008, 02:49 PM

You have a great system to enjoy. Like you, I have the Studio 100's too. No regrets. Hope things go well with your SO. At least you have your system to enjoy:)

ParadigmDawg

07-19-2008, 02:49 PM

They retail for around 2600, I paid less:D

No, everything sounds better at my dealers. He has four HT rooms fully set up running. Each one is the "next step" up. There is one room I really wont even go in plus I dont think they will let you unless you drive up in a 275k car, have on a Rolex and are with a $750/hour Escort:eek:Greg, so how much did you pay out-of-pocket for the Studio 100 system?

Do they sound better in your acoustically treated room than @ the dealer or do they sound the same?

I was very unhappy with the Studio 100s at my local dealer, but then again we're talking about small-time Oklahoma here, not the Big-D.:D

ParadigmDawg

07-19-2008, 02:50 PM

I am loving them!You have a great system to enjoy. Like you, I have the Studio 100's too. No regrets. Hope things go well with your SO. At least you have your system to enjoy:)

AcuDefTechGuy

07-20-2008, 08:37 AM

They retail for around 2600, I paid less:D

No, everything sounds better at my dealers. He has four HT rooms fully set up running. Each one is the "next step" up. There is one room I really wont even go in plus I dont think they will let you unless you drive up in a 275k car, have on a Rolex and are with a $750/hour Escort:eek:

Greg, what is the name and location of this dealer?

I need to save it in my GPS so that I can check them out the next time I'm in Dallas.:D

ParadigmDawg

07-20-2008, 12:12 PM

Marvin Electronics. Below is there website.

If you are ever here call me so we can go together.
http://www.marvinelectronics.com/store.htm

Greg, what is the name and location of this dealer?

I need to save it in my GPS so that I can check them out the next time I'm in Dallas.:D

AcuDefTechGuy

07-20-2008, 12:19 PM

Marvin Electronics. Below is there website.

If you are ever here call me so we can go together.
http://www.marvinelectronics.com/store.htm

Thanks.

I'll do that.

That should be fun.:D

Looks like Marvin Electronics is only 23 miles from my brother's house. Cool.

ParadigmDawg

07-20-2008, 12:22 PM

Yep, I deal only with the youngest son of the original owner. They have been here for over 50 years with no plan of ever leaving. They can be a little "snooty" but they are not to me and I am pretty certain that I am there cheapest client!Thanks.

I'll do that.

That should be fun.:D

AcuDefTechGuy

07-20-2008, 01:02 PM

ParadigmDawg

07-20-2008, 05:26 PM

Yep, I keep meaning to listen to them but the dealer always tells me not to bother:eek:Hey, I notice they carry DefTechs. Can't wait to compare DefTechs vs B&W vs Paradigm.:D:D

GlocksRock

07-20-2008, 07:08 PM

AcuDefTechGuy

07-20-2008, 11:23 PM

Yep, I keep meaning to listen to them but the dealer always tells me not to bother:eek:

Did you ever ask why? Maybe because they sound better and they don't want you buying a less expensive speaker that sounds equally good if not better. :p

I tell you one thing. If the B&W 800D and Paradigm Studio 100 speakers sound as bad as they did to me in my local stores, and the DefTech BP7000 & 7001 sound as good as they do in my house, there is no way anybody would buy the B&W or Paradigm.

But we will see. Should be interesting.

And why sell speakers if they don't like them? Why waste your showroom space? Why keep overhead inventories? That makes no sense. It's like, "Oh, yeah, we have these $5,500 speakers over here and the $3,000 subwoofer over there, but don't listen to them and don't buy them from us because they suck.":confused:

I don't see how it would hurt to just listen to the DefTechs. I mean just for curiosity. I wonder which models do they have? Just the newer Mythos or the also the Powered Bipolars like the BP7000SC?

Warpdrv

07-21-2008, 09:38 AM

Hey, Congrats on the new upgrade to the 100's... they are very nice...

I hope you like them better then the 60's....

ParadigmDawg

07-21-2008, 01:53 PM

Man, I was just kidding, he never said that:DI tell you one thing. If the B&W 800D and Paradigm Studio 100 speakers sound as bad as they did to me in my local stores, and the DefTech BP7000 & 7001 sound as good as they do in my house, there is no way anybody would buy the B&W or Paradigm.

But we will see. Should be interesting.

And why sell speakers if they don't like them? Why waste your showroom space? Why keep overhead inventories? That makes no sense. It's like, "Oh, yeah, we have these $5,500 speakers over here and the $3,000 subwoofer over there, but don't listen to them and don't buy them from us because they suck.":confused:

I don't see how it would hurt to just listen to the DefTechs. I mean just for curiosity. I wonder which models do they have? Just the newer Mythos or the also the Powered Bipolars like the BP7000SC?

AcuDefTechGuy

07-21-2008, 02:39 PM

Man, I was just kidding, he never said that:D

I knew that. I was just going along with GlocksRock.:D

I just talked to someone at Marvin Electronics. He said the highest model they have on B&W is the 803D. He said they have the DefTech 7001SC, but not the flagship 7000SC. Bummer. I actually asked him to compare the $3,800 BP7001 vs $9,000 B&W803D, and he was being a typical salesman. He said, "Oh, you can't really compare them because they just have totally different sound to them. It's just a matter of personal preference.":D

I would have said, "Sir, the 803Ds cost $5,200 more than the 7001s, so of course, they are going to sound better." But I guess I'm not much of a salesman.:D

ParadigmDawg

07-21-2008, 04:07 PM

I just left there. I was going to listen to the DTs but the guy I deal with (owner) is bird hunting out of the country. Must be nice:eek:I knew that. I was just going along with GlocksRock.:D

I just talked to someone at Marvin Electronics. He said the highest model they have on B&W is the 803D. He said they have the DefTech 7001SC, but not the flagship 7000SC. Bummer. I actually asked him to compare the $3,800 BP7001 vs $9,000 B&W803D, and he was being a typical salesman. He said, "Oh, you can't really compare them because they just have totally different sound to them. It's just a matter of personal preference.":D

I would have said, "Sir, the 803Ds cost $5,200 more than the 7001s, so of course, they are going to sound better." But I guess I'm not much of a salesman.:D

nick1000000

07-21-2008, 06:09 PM

I just left there. I was going to listen to the DTs but the guy I deal with (owner) is bird hunting out of the country. Must be nice:eek:

You just paid for that trip:D

Haoleb

07-23-2008, 01:45 AM

Yep, 100's. I just told her via email and she is way more mad than I thought she would be:eek:

I like your strategy, Break it to her in an email so she can vent to someone else and be all cooled off by the time she see's you :D

Warpdrv

07-23-2008, 10:15 AM

So how do they sound to you compared to the 60's...

The dedicated midrange should be a bit more clear.....

Any noticeable differences now that you had them... Curious how music sounds after you had your balls cut off...? :p:o

ParadigmDawg

07-23-2008, 10:32 AM

Turns out that you dont need balls to enjoy music...

I upgraded from the 40's so the 100's are way more full in the mid range and dig a lot deeper.So how do they sound to you compared to the 60's...

The dedicated midrange should be a bit more clear.....

Any noticeable differences now that you had them... Curious how music sounds after you had your balls cut off...? :p:o

Warpdrv

07-23-2008, 11:38 AM

Turns out that you dont need balls to enjoy music...

I upgraded from the 40's so the 100's are way more full in the mid range and dig a lot deeper.

Oh thats right.... sorry my bad.... haven't kept up for a while...

I was going to say, if you were upgrading from the 60's I wouldn't have said a word, and just plopped them down, on the outside you can't tell the difference... ;)

Both the 40's and the 60s are 2 1/2 way, while the 100's have the dedicated mid for a 3 way.... I can't say I notice a huge amount of difference between the Sig S4's and the Studio 100's but I haven't taken the time to do a side by side, but I can tell the 100's have a touch more presence in the mids, but on the other hand the vote of accuracy, clarity and sound staging goes to the S4's..... but not by a great margin...

AcuDefTechGuy

07-23-2008, 01:41 PM

So did I miss the part where you say which receiver you will be buying next?

I guess you had to choose between Receiver vs. Speakers, but not both? So looks like you're stuck with your current receiver for another year at least?:D

ParadigmDawg

07-23-2008, 04:01 PM

No man, AVR are easy to sneak in and hide....So did I miss the part where you say which receiver you will be buying next?

I guess you had to choose between Receiver vs. Speakers, but not both? So looks like you're stuck with your current receiver for another year at least?:D

AcuDefTechGuy

07-23-2008, 06:02 PM

No man, AVR are easy to sneak in and hide....

I hear you!:D

I could sneak in the $7,500 Denon AVP-A1HDCI and my wife wouldn't even notice. If she does ask, my response would be, "No, honey, I've had that for 10 years now.":D

Davemcc

07-24-2008, 06:52 AM

No man, AVR are easy to sneak in and hide....

I'm curious as to why you're looking at a receiver at all, since you have the MPS-1 already. I know it's easy to run a receiver as a pre/pro. I'm doing that myself, but I don't like the thought of powering all the unused amp channels in the receiver all the time for no effect.

Would an Integra or Onkyo Pro processor work for you? There's supposed to be a lot more of the new HDMI 1.3a units on the market later this year too, Marantz, Rotel, Emotiva, maybe others.

ParadigmDawg

07-24-2008, 08:59 AM

The main reason was I needed to upgrade something. The secondary reason is that I need HDMI but in no big hurry now so I will wait and see who comes out with what...I'm curious as to why you're looking at a receiver at all, since you have the MPS-1 already. I know it's easy to run a receiver as a pre/pro. I'm doing that myself, but I don't like the thought of powering all the unused amp channels in the receiver all the time for no effect.

Would an Integra or Onkyo Pro processor work for you? There's supposed to be a lot more of the new HDMI 1.3a units on the market later this year too, Marantz, Rotel, Emotiva, maybe others.

AcuDefTechGuy

07-24-2008, 09:52 AM

The main reason was I needed to upgrade something. The secondary reason is that I need HDMI but in no big hurry now so I will wait and see who comes out with what...

Yeah, we all kind of sound alike.:D

I need to upgrade something constantly too - speakers, processor, projector - whatever it takes.:D

And if they come out with 4K TVs and Purple-Ray players, I'll be the first in line.:D

Midcow2

07-24-2008, 10:02 AM

Yeah, we all kind of sound alike.:D

I need to upgrade something constantly too - speakers, processor, projector - whatever it takes.:D

And if they come out with 4K TVs and Purple-Ray players, I'll be the first in line.:D

According to Al Hanson 2/19/2008
http://www.videoasylum.com/ht/messages/3/30844.html

And Hansen may yet be proven right again for his next statement.

"...The reality is that there won't be strong market penetration in the US for *any* new format until the price drops below $200 for a player. (That's exactly what happened for DVD.) But that would erase the entire reason for even making Blu-Ray players. Once the players become a commodity, the Japanese cannot compete against the Chinese. Then they'll try and sell you Purple-Ray..."

Yes. It's going to be called Purple-Ray! :D:D You heard it here first.

AcuDefTechGuy

07-24-2008, 11:05 AM

According to Al Hanson 2/19/2008
http://www.videoasylum.com/ht/messages/3/30844.html

And Hansen may yet be proven right again for his next statement.

"...The reality is that there won't be strong market penetration in the US for *any* new format until the price drops below $200 for a player. (That's exactly what happened for DVD.) But that would erase the entire reason for even making Blu-Ray players. Once the players become a commodity, the Japanese cannot compete against the Chinese. Then they'll try and sell you Purple-Ray..."

Yes. It's going to be called Purple-Ray! :D:D You heard it here first.

Very cool!

Bring on Purple-Ray and 4K Video. 1080p (2K video) is yesterday's news.:D