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gus6464
04-16-2008, 06:18 AM
Got the update today and checked it out with Live Free or Die Hard and Sunshine. All I can say is flawless.... Huge difference between the soundtracks now. Explosions on DH4 now hit harder than before. Has everyone else had good experiences with the update?

PS. PS3 rocks :)

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 09:52 AM
I didn't have much time yestereday to mess with anything, but I did get the update and checked out the F35 scene in Live Free Or Die Hard, and it sounded freakin amazing, it was loud as hell, and sounded very good.

patnshan
04-16-2008, 10:25 AM
I did the update and then checked my audio setup on the setup screen. It only lists various forms on LPCM. It does not display DTS HD MA or True HD for that matter:confused: I do not have a source to check as of yet.

Is it just showing me what it put's out rather than what it decodes? Is there a way of showing me what it can decode without a source BD?

Thanks,

Pat

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 10:51 AM
No, not really, since the PS3 internally decodes the DTS-HD MA and outputs it as PCM, as long as you have your PS3 set to accept that type of format, you will be ok, but you won't be able to see dts-hd ma until you actually play a source with that format and hit the display button.

Jack Hammer
04-16-2008, 12:44 PM
I saw this on the update site:

Blu-ray Disc playback now supports DTS-HD Master Audio™ and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio™ output.*
* The PS3™ system does not support playback of DTS-ES and DTS 96/24 for DVD-Video or DTS-ES Matrix for Blu-ray Discs.

Anybody have any trouble playing dts-es yet?

Jack

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 01:08 PM
You would probably just get the DTS core audio from any DTS-ES track, not sure about the DTS 96/24 though, I have a DTS demo disc that has all that stuff on it, I can pop it in later and see what happens, but it's not blu ray.

Dezoris
04-16-2008, 01:19 PM
If you want to see what the PS3 is doing during the movie hit SELECT on the controller.

It will show you if it is Dolby HD, DTSHD-MA or Dolby Digital and the bitrate.

The DTS-ES thing is weird, why would they use that on BluRay disks anyway?

patnshan
04-16-2008, 01:40 PM
If you want to see what the PS3 is doing during the movie hit SELECT on the controller.

It will show you if it is Dolby HD, DTSHD-MA or Dolby Digital and the bitrate.

The DTS-ES thing is weird, why would they use that on BluRay disks anyway?

I'll try that. Does anybody have a list of titles that have DTS HD MA? I'd like to rent one this weekend:D

Pat

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 02:57 PM
The DTS-ES thing is weird, why would they use that on BluRay disks anyway?

For those that don't have the ability to take advantage of the lossless audio formats. But if your receiver can decode DTS-ES then just use optical digital cable to connect the ps3 to your receiver and set the ps3 to bitstream and you will have DTS-ES.

darien87
04-16-2008, 03:27 PM
I tried it last night and watched a bit of AVP, Live Free or Die Hard, I, Robot and Hitman.

Honestly, I didn't notice much of a difference. LFODH did seem a bit louder and clearer than I remember. I rented the Blu-ray of Hitman from BB. This was my first time seeing this movie. The bass in that movie was crazy. Honestly, there was too much bass during gun blasts. Though it didn't sound very realistic, it did sound cool.

AcuDefTechGuy
04-16-2008, 04:00 PM
I HATE YOU GUYS!!!:D

I'm still waiting for my Denon DVD-3800BDCI to arrive - maybe next Tuesday!

Then I can experience DTS-MA for the first time.:D

Jack Hammer
04-16-2008, 05:21 PM
I HATE YOU GUYS!!!:D

I'm still waiting for my Denon DVD-3800BDCI to arrive - maybe next Tuesday!

Then I can experience DTS-MA for the first time.:D

You may hate us now, but after your Denon DVD-3800DCI shows up, we're likely to be the ones hating you!!!;):p:D

Jack

Btw, even at core 1.5mps, the dts ma sounds awesome.

dtaylor0319
04-16-2008, 05:23 PM
I did my update on the PS3 with no problems, i then put my PS3 to bitstream on the BD settings, i put in die hard 4 i have the Denon 2808ci it shows on the screen DTS Surround and the dts lights up. On my ps3 when i hit the select button it shows DTS multichannel is this dts-hd? Did i do the settings correctly for dts-hd?

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 05:23 PM
You may hate us now, but after your Denon DVD-3800DCI shows up, we're likely to be the ones hating you!!!;):p:D

Jack

Btw, even at core 1.5mps, the dts ma sounds awesome.

I don't know, the PS3 is still a pretty badass machine, not that the Denon isn't going to be nice, but I have a feeling it's probably not going to be worth $2000, chances are it still won't load as fast as the PS3, and it won't have wireless, or a hard drive, or play video games, or surf the net, etc...

Jack Hammer
04-16-2008, 05:29 PM
I don't know, the PS3 is still a pretty badass machine, not that the Denon isn't going to be nice, but I have a feeling it's probably not going to be worth $2000, chances are it still won't load as fast as the PS3, and it won't have wireless, or a hard drive, or play video games, or surf the net, etc...

I still play music from my denon 2910, as I think it sounds better. I also watch certain SD movies on it still, the pq is close but not as nice as the ps3's 1080p output, but still I feel the audio is better.

Jack

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 05:34 PM
I did my update on the PS3 with no problems, i then put my PS3 to bitstream on the BD settings, i put in die hard 4 i have the Denon 2808ci it shows on the screen DTS Surround and the dts lights up. On my ps3 when i hit the select button it shows DTS multichannel is this dts-hd? Did i do the settings correctly for dts-hd?

You need to set it to PCM and use HDMI, that is the only way to get dts-hd ma with the ps3.

GlocksRock
04-16-2008, 05:36 PM
I still play music from my denon 2910, as I think it sounds better. I also watch certain SD movies on it still, the pq is close but not as nice as the ps3's 1080p output, but still I feel the audio is better.

Jack

Even if the Denon does end up sounding better, will it sound $1400 better? A slight increase in quality isn't worth that kind of money to me, I don't have that much disposable income.

dtaylor0319
04-16-2008, 05:39 PM
Thanks Glocks switched it back when i hit the select button it says dts-hd ma. On my receiver it shows multi in plIIx C is this correct?

obscbyclouds
04-17-2008, 01:46 PM
I HATE YOU GUYS!!!:D

I'm still waiting for my Denon DVD-3800BDCI to arrive - maybe next Tuesday!

Then I can experience DTS-MA for the first time.:D

You finally gave up on waiting for Panny eh? :D

GlocksRock
04-17-2008, 02:14 PM
Thanks Glocks switched it back when i hit the select button it says dts-hd ma. On my receiver it shows multi in plIIx C is this correct?

Yes, that's how mine is setup.

AcuDefTechGuy
04-17-2008, 02:39 PM
You finally gave up on waiting for Panny eh? :D

Yes, timing is everything. I guess Panny wants to wait around and do it right with profile 2.0 and all that, but I just can't wait, especially when the due date keeps on moving forward to June and who knows when.

AcuDefTechGuy
04-17-2008, 02:45 PM
You may hate us now, but after your Denon DVD-3800DCI shows up, we're likely to be the ones hating you!!!;):p:D

Jack

Btw, even at core 1.5mps, the dts ma sounds awesome.

Yes, I've noticed that DTS-core sounds great when I had my Panny DMP-BD10A.

To be honest, I don't know if I can tell the difference even between DTS-Core and TrueHD or LPCM.

I may not be able to tell the difference between DTS-Core & DTS-MA either.

But I just gotta have DTS-MA.:D

I'm still think the PS3 is awesome for being so powerful and versatile. I'm sure when profile 4.0:D comes around, you can just download the firmware and you are set.!

AcuDefTechGuy
04-17-2008, 02:52 PM
I don't know, the PS3 is still a pretty badass machine, not that the Denon isn't going to be nice, but I have a feeling it's probably not going to be worth $2000, chances are it still won't load as fast as the PS3, and it won't have wireless, or a hard drive, or play video games, or surf the net, etc...

It's probably not worth $2K.

It probably doesn't sound or look any better than the PS3.

It was made for people who just gotta have a "purist" player -- people who just gotta have that SOURCE DIRECT mode to bypass all speaker and bass management and have all channels set to full bandwidth 20 Hz - 20 kHz + subwoofer.

I know. I know. I know what you guys are thinking, but you just don't want to say it.

I'm an idiot.:D:D

obscbyclouds
04-17-2008, 07:14 PM
It's probably not worth $2K.

It probably doesn't sound or look any better than the PS3.


I know. I know. I know what you guys are thinking, but you just don't want to say it.

I'm an idiot.:D:D

Do you have a PS3? You could set up so DBT's for us and find out. :D

Does that Denon play SACD and DVD-A? I can't afford it, but I'd love to hear all about it once you actually get it. It may be a good investment, if Denon gets bought out by Monster, I bet that $2000 player becomes $4000. :)

AcuDefTechGuy
04-18-2008, 02:25 PM
Do you have a PS3? You could set up so DBT's for us and find out. :D

Does that Denon play SACD and DVD-A? I can't afford it, but I'd love to hear all about it once you actually get it. It may be a good investment, if Denon gets bought out by Monster, I bet that $2000 player becomes $4000. :)

No, I sold my PS3 to my younger brother.

My Denon DVD-5910CI plays SACD & DVD-A, but the DVD-3800BDCI only plays BD/DVD/CD (among others), but not SACD or DVD-A.

That would be very funny if all the current or old Denons jumped in value!:D

Yeah, I'll get some new pics (5910CI & 3800BDCI) up and give my short review once I get my hands on the 3800BDCI.

I truly believe that we buy things for more than just performance. Aesthetics and Pride of Ownership are huge factors.

Let's face it, if we were billionaires, we would be begging Mark Levinson to make a $20,000 blu-ray player to match that $20,000 SACD/DVD-A player.:D