High costs for Blu players at Amazon

[bancroft]

Just checked out the Amazon web site and the Sony 300 is $370 but delivered in 1 to 2 months.

The 500 has a price of $2,700.

What is going on???

[patnshan]

What's going on is no competition.

Pat

[j_garcia]

Has to be some kind of mistake... The ES2000 is still $1200, the S500 said $2499.

[MUDSHARK]

I notice the price is not from Amazon but one of the partner stores. That model must be unavailable anywhere hence the jacked up price.There do seem to be plenty of the Panasonic and Samsung units. Wonder what Sony's shipping problems involve?

Onecall and BHPhoto also are backordered on Sony Blu-Ray Players.

The Staff Instigator needs to get on this breaking story.

[j_garcia]

Probably much higher sales on the lower models due to the demise of HD DVD, which is why the more expensive models are available. Still, that doesn't translate into why the players are listed for crazy prices like that...it isn't like there aren't going to be more BD players. The Panasonic players seem to be about the same price as before.

[dobyblue]

The Staff Instigator needs to get on this breaking story.

Yeah, that's all everyone needs is more misinformation and rash, unresearched, unthought-out conclusions being written here.

:rolleyes:

[allargon]

Some of you guys need to take off your Blu glasses. The players went up due to lack of competition from HD DVD, a weak dollar and the tapering off of traditional q4/early q1 discounting.

Acting like players didn't go up is turning a blind eye at best but silly cheerleading at worst. Even Swanni and Bill Hunt said player prices need to come down.

It's true that the former HD supporters are the main ones jumping on this. However, if Onkyo, Pioneer, Marantz, Rotel, Cambridge Audio, Lexicon (okay, maybe not Lexicon), etc. raised prices on their receivers, amps and/or pre-pros, I can guarantee you the staff here as well as many posters would make note of it too.

[j_garcia]

Um, the pricing for the expensive players didn't change...so your theory doesn't hold. The weak dollar did not change a $500 player into a $2500 player over night.

[MUDSHARK]

Some of you guys need to take off your Blu glasses. The players went up due to lack of competition from HD DVD, a weak dollar and the tapering off of traditional q4/early q1 discounting.

Acting like players didn't go up is turning a blind eye at best but silly cheerleading at worst. Even Swanni and Bill Hunt said player prices need to come down.

It's true that the former HD supporters are the main ones jumping on this. However, if Onkyo, Pioneer, Marantz, Rotel, Cambridge Audio, Lexicon (okay, maybe not Lexicon), etc. raised prices on their receivers, amps and/or pre-pros, I can guarantee you the staff here as well as many posters would make note of it too.


That doesn't explain the shortages and only by Sony. Raise prices and double volume. Wish my marketing people could accomplish that.

Doby: who here does not make rash statements? This whole hobby is about the irrational. Do normal people spend 10K or more on their home entertainment systems? I think not.

I find Stratman's threads entertaining. Keep em coming.:)

[jcPanny]

Sony's best BluRay player is the PS3. Pick up one with the smaller hard drive for $400. They even have a FW update for the profile 2.0.

With the current pricing trends and the economy, BluRay might not last much longer than HD-DVD.

[emorphien]

With the current pricing trends and the economy, BluRay might not last much longer than HD-DVD.
No kidding, I'm giving until the end of this year, maybe this time next year, for a reasonably priced multi format player to hit (BD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) to replace my Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD/SACD/DVD-A player with. If that fails I may just have to bite the bullet and buy a PS3 as much as I loathe Sony.

[sholling]

It's just Sony's second bite at destroying high definition DVD. First they put the affordable format out of business through marketing muscle and back room deals. Now they jack up the price on the surviving products. The old one two punch.

[patnshan]

Sony's best BluRay player is the PS3. Pick up one with the smaller hard drive for $400. They even have a FW update for the profile 2.0.

With the current pricing trends and the economy, BluRay might not last much longer than HD-DVD.

Yep, against my better judgment I am gonna get one. I gotta have my Disney movies in HD:D I guess I'll use the hard drive as a photo server. I already have an HTPC so really have no great use for it.

Pat

[satish536]

Sony's best BluRay player is the PS3. Pick up one with the smaller hard drive for $400. They even have a FW update for the profile 2.0.

With the current pricing trends and the economy, BluRay might not last much longer than HD-DVD.

PS3 is great, I plan on buying one as soon as sony releases a firmware upgrade for support of DTS-HD MA....

[ParkerAudio]

Got my new issue of Home Theater magazine, apparently all of us are jumping the boat here, they are still debating whether or not the Warner Bros. decision will kill HD DVD. WEIRD!!!

[rgriffin25]

Got my new issue of Home Theater magazine, apparently all of us are jumping the boat here, they are still debating whether or not the Warner Bros. decision will kill HD DVD. WEIRD!!!

Thats one of the disadvantages of print news magazines. Now days the news happens so fast a hardcopy cannot keep up with the web!

[fmw]

You're all reading too much into it. Somebody made a mistake at the keyboard.

[MUDSHARK]

J&R has the 300 in stock for $399 per Amazon.

Also this little goody
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentDisplayView?cmsId=content/TVandHomeEntertainment/HomeAudio/HES-V1000/index&hideHeaderFooter=false&storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&XID=O:hesv1000:corp_hes_gglsrch

I never read about this one before but at a cost that is nearly decadent.

[skads_187]

as someone mentioned before, it's not amazon's price, its another retailer. Whats funny is, I came across the same issue. I was looking for a drum tab book that was out of print, it used to be a 20$ book, now its going for a couple of hundred bucks, used without a cover page. Amazing. :eek:
I wonder if there is anyone crazy/dumb enough out there to actually purchase these. I mean imagine someone purchasing the s500 for 2,449.99. Yikes.

[mfabien]

...

Also this little goody
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentDisplayView?cmsId=content/TVandHomeEntertainment/HomeAudio/HES-V1000/index&hideHeaderFooter=false&storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&XID=O:hesv1000:corp_hes_gglsrch

I never read about this one before but at a cost that is nearly decadent.

Some people have a lot of money. And some of them may buy anything that will impress others, who have less. Some manufacturers find this a niche market for exotic products.

Other example: Lamborghini and many other items will come to mind for each reader.

[BMXTRIX]

It's just Sony's second bite at destroying high definition DVD. First they put the affordable format out of business through marketing muscle and back room deals. Now they jack up the price on the surviving products. The old one two punch.
Always funny to read posts like this as we all know that the real goal of Sony is to spend 4 billion dollars to defeat Toshiba, and then kill the format which Panasonic (not Sony) holds the most patents in so that the revenue stream can be returned to Toshiba and their DVD patents.

Sure, it seems a bit crazy to do - but this is clearly their methodology because the format was is now two months 'over' and we should be getting our Toshiba subsidized players at any point now... shouldn't we?

[emorphien]

Always funny to read posts like this

I agree, you appear to quite like Sony.

[stratman]

I find Stratman's threads entertaining. Keep em coming.:)

Doby wasn't talking about me, but a certain person who happens to like HD DVD and harps on the current disc prices.:D

[Alamar]

Doby wasn't talking about me, but a certain person who happens to like HD DVD and harps on the current disc prices.:D

I represent that remark :)

Eitherway the HD-DVD boat has sailed. I can only hope that Sony & the Blu Group can get their act together by Christmas. I'm worried that they won't but time will tell.

Once that's done hopefully the content providers will follow the hardware manufacturer's lead ...

[MUDSHARK]

Doby wasn't talking about me, but a certain person who happens to like HD DVD and harps on the current disc prices.:D

In that case I stand corrected and beg Doby's pardon.:o

[stratman]

In that case I stand corrected and beg Doby's pardon.:o

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Muddy. Always appreciated from one Floridian to another.:D

[BMXTRIX]

I agree, you appear to quite like Sony.
I have a PS3 and an A2 as well as Panasonic, Pioneer, Yamaha, Crestron, and other gear. I buy what works and make sense. I evaluate the products available to me and try not to make stupid rush decisions on my purchases.

In the case of Blu-ray, I purchased a PS3 on opening week as a preorder and made one of the best decisions possible to this point with the format. Strange, but just spending $129 on my A2 and I feel more robbed than I did with my $600 PS3... I don't think I'm alone on that.

Yet, when I get a stand alone player for my home, I'm likely going to be leaning towards Panny or Denon in about a year - probably not Sony since their handling of regular DVD material, which I have a great deal of, is typically rather poor.

[ParkerAudio]

I have a PS3 and an A2 as well as Panasonic, Pioneer, Yamaha, Crestron, and other gear. I buy what works and make sense. I evaluate the products available to me and try not to make stupid rush decisions on my purchases.

In the case of Blu-ray, I purchased a PS3 on opening week as a preorder and made one of the best decisions possible to this point with the format. Strange, but just spending $129 on my A2 and I feel more robbed than I did with my $600 PS3... I don't think I'm alone on that.

Yet, when I get a stand alone player for my home, I'm likely going to be leaning towards Panny or Denon in about a year - probably not Sony since their handling of regular DVD material, which I have a great deal of, is typically rather poor.

Try being stuck with one of the first $1000 Samsung Bluray players, that isn't playing a lot of Bluray movies despite the software upgrages Samsung issues. $129, with all the movies they gave away with those things, is cheaper than a regular upscaling DVD player.

[dobyblue]

Yes but it also has, in terms of new content being released, practically nil.
Even for $129 with 9 free titles, that's a problem.

It's entirely possible there could be more UMD releases this year than HD DVD.

[dobyblue]

In that case I stand corrected and beg Doby's pardon.:o

No worries man, me and the Stratman get along just fine.

:)

[BMXTRIX]

Try being stuck with one of the first $1000 Samsung Bluray players, that isn't playing a lot of Bluray movies despite the software upgrages Samsung issues. $129, with all the movies they gave away with those things, is cheaper than a regular upscaling DVD player.
If you re-read my post, you will see that a $1,000 Samsung player is not likely to be very high on the list of things which I would purchase. :) I feel for those people who have made poor buying decisions, but evidence has always pointed to where we are right now. The next question is when we will see player prices fall under $300, $200, and $100 for Blu-ray. Not IF, but when. I think it may be an annual ritual of dropping right around a hundred bucks going into the holidays.

But, the best part will be that the players will get better every year to go along with the price cuts.

[ParkerAudio]

Yes but it also has, in terms of new content being released, practically nil.
Even for $129 with 9 free titles, that's a problem.

It's entirely possible there could be more UMD releases this year than HD DVD.

so if you needed an upscaling DVD player and they were giving you $90 worth of DVD's, and that is only at $10 a DVD, I will negate the fact they are HD DVD's, you still don't think that is a good deal?
Now you have to look past that Bluray haze you live in:)

[dobyblue]

so if you needed an upscaling DVD player and they were giving you $90 worth of DVD's, and that is only at $10 a DVD, I will negate the fact they are HD DVD's, you still don't think that is a good deal?
Now you have to look past that Bluray haze you live in:)

If I still watched DVD's, yes it would be a good deal.
DVD content is still being released.

But, I still wouldn't buy an HD DVD player with upscaling abilities when I can get an upscaling DVD player for $49 and buy 10 DVD's for $6 at Wal*Mart.

Plus, DVD's aren't obsolete...although I don't buy them anymore.

[ParkerAudio]

$6 for a DVD like 300, you must be quite the shopper, I was giving a low ball figure of $10, and discounting out the fact that they were HD DVD's.

You must also have a really nice video store in the area to be renting all Bluray titles and no DVD titles. I have Netflix, and still have to take some DVD titles, and in my area of St.Louis, you can almost forget about walking in to any store and renting a Bluray. The stock and selection aren't there.

[dobyblue]

You must also have a really nice video store in the area to be renting all Bluray titles and no DVD titles. I have Netflix, and still have to take some DVD titles, and in my area of St.Louis, you can almost forget about walking in to any store and renting a Bluray. The stock and selection aren't there.

That sucks, St. Louis being a fairly large area and all.

I live in a town of 120,000 people (St. Catharines, Ontario) and both of my local Blockbusters have Blu-ray sections, prominently placed in the middle of the store at the central point of the New Release walls (equidistant from A and Z)

I posted a pic from a few months ago here, it has grown quite a bit since this time - you can see the pics in this thread, the Blockbuster ones are at the bottom.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=26913

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2504/tempxp9.jpg

It's over twice this size now.

Although I hardly ever rent as I have 125 Blu-ray Discs and have plenty that I haven't watched. I took advantage of all the Blu-ray BOGO's and sales from last year and spent around $9.99 to $13.99 on most of the discs I have.

[ParkerAudio]

Yeah, you have a lot better selection there. I see two copies of some of the titles there, local Blockbuster is luck to have one.

[skads_187]

I live in a town of 120,000 people (St. Catharines, Ontario)

Although I hardly ever rent as I have 125 Blu-ray Discs and have plenty that I haven't watched. I took advantage of all the Blu-ray BOGO's and sales from last year and spent around $9.99 to $13.99 on most of the discs I have.

just wanted to know, since your in Canada, where do you get your blu-ray deals from? I want to start adding to my collection. So far, here in Montreal, the only crappy deals we have is a 2 for 50$ at HMV.
You probably purchased them online, but from where? amazon.ca has them priced pretty high as well. the ones I have gotten from ebay range from 16-19$ shipping included. thanks

[dobyblue]

Yeah, you have a lot better selection there. I see two copies of some of the titles there, local Blockbuster is luck to have one.

They actually have a lot more than two copies of titles like Die Hard 4, 300, etc., and put them behind one or two cases, as they didn't have room due to it being in one section.

If you go to the blu-ray.com link I posted there I show the HD DVD section too, which you can see about 5-6 cases of 300, as they didn't have as many titles to squeeze in.