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nasachusetts
03-14-2008, 12:13 AM
I just recently purchased a 36" Sony Wega CRT TV and am most pleased with the quality of this TV. I have had it for a few weeks now and just today noticed the color halos around the edges pretty stong. I do have 2 non-shielded floorstanding speakers both a little over 1 foot away from it. I immeditely moved the away from the TV but the halos were still there. I also have a shielded center speaker that sits on top of it so I moved that also, however, when I took it off the halo got stronger along the top of the screen. I turned off the set for a few minutes and then turned it back on and the picture was back to normal again. I put back the all the speakers and the picture was still fine. Does anyone know what happened? If I look at just a white screen I can still see a little hint of where the halos were but it isn't as obvious as it was for that moment. I thought it had to have been the speakers but I didn't have any trouble the whole time since I've had it and as I've said before the picture is fine now. Would you recommend that I buy expensive magnetically shielded floor speakers? Also, has anyone used a degaussing coil before? Do they work or would I risk permanently damaging the screen? I love this TV and I am not planning on moving to LCD or plasma anytime soon. Trinitron CRT's have a superior picture over any new format in my opinion the 16x9 enhanced option on this unit is amazing and is comparable to alot of HD sets that I've seen. Sorry for rambling on. Thanks for any help you may offer me in advance.

TLS Guy
03-14-2008, 12:42 AM
I just recently purchased a 36" Sony Wega CRT TV and am most pleased with the quality of this TV. I have had it for a few weeks now and just today noticed the color halos around the edges pretty stong. I do have 2 non-shielded floorstanding speakers both a little over 1 foot away from it. I immeditely moved the away from the TV but the halos were still there. I also have a shielded center speaker that sits on top of it so I moved that also, however, when I took it off the halo got stronger along the top of the screen. I turned off the set for a few minutes and then turned it back on and the picture was back to normal again. I put back the all the speakers and the picture was still fine. Does anyone know what happened? If I look at just a white screen I can still see a little hint of where the halos were but it isn't as obvious as it was for that moment. I thought it had to have been the speakers but I didn't have any trouble the whole time since I've had it and as I've said before the picture is fine now. Would you recommend that I buy expensive magnetically shielded floor speakers? Also, has anyone used a degaussing coil before? Do they work or would I risk permanently damaging the screen? I love this TV and I am not planning on moving to LCD or plasma anytime soon. Trinitron CRT's have a superior picture over any new format in my opinion the 16x9 enhanced option on this unit is amazing and is comparable to alot of HD sets that I've seen. Sorry for rambling on. Thanks for any help you may offer me in advance.

Your speakers' magnets are magnetizing the CRT. It sounds as if your TV has degaussing coils that are activated on start up of the TV. This has improved the situation for now, however there is evidence of residual magnetization of the CRT. I doubt an external degausser would be very effective. You need a high AC field round the tube electrodes to do any good. Above all stop creating the problem.

Why are your mains so close to the TV? For best sound and spatial effect, the mains should be at least 8 ft apart and preferably 10ft. If they are that far apart they won't magnetize the CRT. If you refuse to space them away from the TV then you will have to put shields on the speaker magnets. The other option is to change speakers or TV

Exit
03-14-2008, 12:58 PM
I had rainbows on my CRT from a speaker about a foot away too. Rainbows are definitely related to the presence of magnetic fields. You should move your unshielded speakers away from the TV or consider getting shielded speakers if you want to stay with a CRT. As far as I have read there is no practical way to shield existing speaker magnets yourself. The shielding has to be built in by the manufaturer of the speaker.

j_garcia
03-14-2008, 01:14 PM
If you leave the speakers there for any length of time, the damage to your set will become permanent.

billy p
03-14-2008, 03:55 PM
I just recently purchased a 36" Sony Wega CRT TV and am most pleased with the quality of this TV. I have had it for a few weeks now and just today noticed the color halos around the edges pretty stong. I do have 2 non-shielded floorstanding speakers both a little over 1 foot away from it. I immeditely moved the away from the TV but the halos were still there. I also have a shielded center speaker that sits on top of it so I moved that also, however, when I took it off the halo got stronger along the top of the screen. I turned off the set for a few minutes and then turned it back on and the picture was back to normal again. I put back the all the speakers and the picture was still fine. Does anyone know what happened? If I look at just a white screen I can still see a little hint of where the halos were but it isn't as obvious as it was for that moment. I thought it had to have been the speakers but I didn't have any trouble the whole time since I've had it and as I've said before the picture is fine now. Would you recommend that I buy expensive magnetically shielded floor speakers? Also, has anyone used a degaussing coil before? Do they work or would I risk permanently damaging the screen? I love this TV and I am not planning on moving to LCD or plasma anytime soon. Trinitron CRT's have a superior picture over any new format in my opinion the 16x9 enhanced option on this unit is amazing and is comparable to alot of HD sets that I've seen. Sorry for rambling on. Thanks for any help you may offer me in advance.

Before you bought your CRT display were you aware that your speakers where not magnetically shielded? If so, than you were better off buying a flat pannel because they are not effected by non shielded speakers. ;)

My 2 cents

nasachusetts
03-14-2008, 04:26 PM
I would move the speakers farther apart but there isn't anymore room available to do that. I guess I'll have to go speaker shopping. Does anybody know why the center speaker I have that is magnetically shielded make the halos considerably more apparent when I took it off the top? Also you are saying a degaussing coil would be useless in my case if there was any residual halos left over? That is permanent damage then?

nasachusetts
03-14-2008, 05:37 PM
Could the magnetically shielded center speaker sitting on top of the TV possibly affect the picture? I did take it to the side of my computer monitor and it did produce rainbow effects.

j_garcia
03-14-2008, 05:40 PM
I have my center sitting right on top of my CRT and it causes no effects. It has been there for over 2 years.

Pyrrho
03-14-2008, 07:21 PM
Could the magnetically shielded center speaker sitting on top of the TV possibly affect the picture? I did take it to the side of my computer monitor and it did produce rainbow effects.

Unfortunately, there is no standardization for how much of a magnetic field is allowable for a "magnetically shielded" speaker. Not all speakers have the same amount of magnetic field around them. My advice for you is to move your current speakers away from the TV far enough that there is no visible effect. You can set your center channel speaker on top of something that you place on top of the TV. Or, you can place it on a shelf underneath the TV, whichever you prefer (it will probably be best to have its tweeter as close as possible to the same height as the tweeters in your right and left front speakers). You will have to experiment for yourself to find out exactly how far it must be from the set.

Unfortunately for you, the larger the CRT, usually, the more sensitive it is to magnetic interference. This is because of the way CRTs work, with magnetism being used to direct the electron beams emanating from the back of the CRT, and, generally, with larger CRTs, the distance is greater from the rear to the front, so a smaller deflection from perfection has a greater effect on the picture.

So, simply move your current speakers far enough away to have no effect, and the problem is solved. You will want to turn off the set and restart it as before, of course, but that will happen in normal use anyway.

If you do not have enough space to move your speakers far enough away, then you will need to either find a way of shielding the TV from the magnetism of them (you'll need to ask someone else about that), or you will need to replace the speakers (or TV). If you do buy new speakers to take care of this, make sure you buy locally from someone with a good return policy. Remember, there is no standardization of the amount of magnetism coming from a speaker, even if it is supposed to be "magnetically shielded", and as you can see from your supposedly "magnetically shielded" center speaker, such speakers can affect the picture.

Seth=L
03-14-2008, 07:28 PM
I would just keep the speakers completly away from the TV for now until you can A.) get new speakers that have sheilding or in the case of the center channel, better sheilding or B.) get a non-CRT display, which might be easier.

cerwinmad
03-14-2008, 07:47 PM
I dunno if this helps, but the samsung widescreen CRTs have a degaussing coil that is activated by unplugging the set and after 30mins, pushing the power button on remote (according to the manual). im not sure if the sonys have this feature, but maybe worth a try. ive had other CRT screens that only returned to normal after leaving it unplugged over night. also even if you can move your speakers half a foot further away it may help, try it. :)

nasachusetts
03-14-2008, 11:06 PM
I would just keep the speakers completly away from the TV for now until you can A.) get new speakers that have sheilding or in the case of the center channel, better sheilding or B.) get a non-CRT display, which might be easier.

I did take away the 2 non shielded speakers from the TV and am planning on getting some shielded bookshelf speakers that I can mount on the wall far away from the screen. I am looking for a pair that would have a decent amount of pass with clear treble and midrange without costing >$150. Preferably <$100. I was looking at maybe purchasing these http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SS-B3000-Bookshelf-Speakers-Woofer/dp/B000OG6I6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1205546210&sr=1-1
But it doesn't say on the site if they are magnetically shielded does anyone know if they are and if they actually sound decent enough? I will have to find something for the center speaker to sit on for the time being, do they sell center speaker stands that sit on top of the TV? I am using one of those cheap KLH brand center speakers now so maybe I will upgrade that in the future as well.
Thanks for everyone's input so far it has been immensly helpful.

Seth=L
03-15-2008, 12:18 AM
The KLH center speaker probably isn't sheilded well at all. You might as well get a matching center channel to go with those Sony's you picked out. I do think you can get better for your money on the speakers though. I am sure someone will chime in. More than likely better will be smaller, but don't equate size to quality.;)

nasachusetts
03-15-2008, 12:47 AM
The KLH center speaker probably isn't sheilded well at all. You might as well get a matching center channel to go with those Sony's you picked out. I do think you can get better for your money on the speakers though. I am sure someone will chime in. More than likely better will be smaller, but don't equate size to quality.;)

Yeah I just did a test on the TV with the KHL and there was a difference at the corner when I lifted it off. I now have it sitting on top of a wooden box that is 6" tall on top of the TV. I have since replaced the floorspeakers with 2 of my shielded Sony surround bookshelf speakers farther away from where the old ones were. These speakers are also not really shielded that great either because I also tested it with the monitor with the same results as the KLH.

Should I not be using any of these so called magnetically shielded speakers anywhere near my set right now? Now I have all the speakers removed from the vicinity of the TV and there is still a slight greenish tint around the edges, so I am to understand that this is permanent and cannot be removed then even with a degaussing coil?

Seth=L
03-15-2008, 01:12 AM
Yeah I just did a test on the TV with the KHL and there was a difference at the corner when I lifted it off. I now have it sitting on top of a wooden box that is 6" tall on top of the TV. I have since replaced the floorspeakers with 2 of my shielded Sony surround bookshelf speakers farther away from where the old ones were. These speakers are also not really shielded that great either because I also tested it with the monitor with the same results as the KLH.

Should I not be using any of these so called magnetically shielded speakers anywhere near my set right now? Now I have all the speakers removed from the vicinity of the TV and there is still a slight greenish tint around the edges, so I am to understand that this is permanent and cannot be removed then even with a degaussing coil?
It's possible a degaussing coil or turning the TV off then back on could restore the picture. A quick note however, turning the TV on and off repeatedly will not help, and could cause undue stress on your TV. Contact a television repair service and get an estimate for the degaussing service. Ask them if they guaranty results, and what they charge if there are no results. I hope the damage is not permanent.

Shielded speakers are better for placement next to CRT based monitors and televisions, but some of the less expensive ones aren't good for placement near or on the CRT. I have yet to own a center channel that did not interfere in some way with my TV. My solution for this is to just not have a center channel for the moment. I am perfectly happy with stereo sound. I would consider doing this and getting a good set of stereo speakers with proper shielding. Look in the used market. I am using Infinity IL10 bookshelf speakers and they blow my mind with just about everything I throw at them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/INFINITY-INTERLUDE-IL-10-Home-Theater-Stereo-Speakers_W0QQitemZ380006549605QQihZ025QQcategoryZ1 4991QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There is a pair for less than $250 after shipping. Will the have the overall output of the Sonys you are considering, you might be surprised. Mine go to crushing levels in my living room, and they are about 8 feet apart and 9 feet from my listening position, so that gives you a perspective of how large the room is and how they are from the TV and my listening seat. Just to give an idea of the level of output I can get from them. I can place the Infinitys very close to the TV without affecting the picture. I can't set them "on" the TV, but I think you would be safe with such a set of speakers for stereo sound.

When properly set up you can get a very immersive sound stage with these speakers. Will it offer convincing surround sound, no, but it's a lot more involved than stereo speakers for movies and it's great for music.

nasachusetts
03-15-2008, 01:53 AM
It's possible a degaussing coil or turning the TV off then back on could restore the picture. A quick note however, turning the TV on and off repeatedly will not help, and could cause undue stress on your TV. Contact a television repair service and get an estimate for the degaussing service. Ask them if they guaranty results, and what they charge if there are no results. I hope the damage is not permanent.

Shielded speakers are better for placement next to CRT based monitors and televisions, but some of the less expensive ones aren't good for placement near or on the CRT. I have yet to own a center channel that did not interfere in some way with my TV. My solution for this is to just not have a center channel for the moment. I am perfectly happy with stereo sound. I would consider doing this and getting a good set of stereo speakers with proper shielding. Look in the used market. I am using Infinity IL10 bookshelf speakers and they blow my mind with just about everything I throw at them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/INFINITY-INTERLUDE-IL-10-Home-Theater-Stereo-Speakers_W0QQitemZ380006549605QQihZ025QQcategoryZ1 4991QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There is a pair for less than $250 after shipping. Will the have the overall output of the Sonys you are considering, you might be surprised. Mine go to crushing levels in my living room, and they are about 8 feet apart and 9 feet from my listening position, so that gives you a perspective of how large the room is and how they are from the TV and my listening seat. Just to give an idea of the level of output I can get from them. I can place the Infinitys very close to the TV without affecting the picture. I can't set them "on" the TV, but I think you would be safe with such a set of speakers for stereo sound.

When properly set up you can get a very immersive sound stage with these speakers. Will it offer convincing surround sound, no, but it's a lot more involved than stereo speakers for movies and it's great for music.

Those speakers look incredible but I really don't want to spend that kind of money on 2 speakers. Also, I used an old setup without a center speaker for years and after incorporating the center speaker, I cannot go back. Right now the discoloration is very, very subliminal, I can only see it with a white screen looking closely and that doesn't bother me. I just don't want any speakers that in the long run to end up permanently damaging my TV. I was thinking about going with this combination http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000OG6I6A/ref=pd_luc_mri?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance and http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OGA81Q/ref=pd_cp_e_3?pf_rd_p=250314601&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000OG6I6A&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0C5J2BENNAQ4TV18DFFM. Does anyone know how these would measure up? I would be setting the center speaker not directly on top but a few inches from the top and the front speaker at least 4 feet away. Do you think that this setup could still create long run problems? Also, does it matter if the speakers are a little more behind the TV?

nasachusetts
03-16-2008, 11:49 PM
How about this combo? Polk Audio Monitor 40 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker
and Polk Audio Monitor Series CS1 Center Channel Speaker? Would that be substantially better that I would be able to tell a huge difference with?

Seth=L
03-16-2008, 11:50 PM
Polk is better than Sony for speakers, by a long shot.

Also, Athena...

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATLS100
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATLSC100
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATLS300

nasachusetts
03-17-2008, 12:17 AM
And that combined with shipping would still be cheaper than the polk's. But which would sound better though? I see that Polk has a pretty good reputation with their speakers. I do like that curved design of the Athena's, I wonder if that really does make a difference.

Seth=L
03-17-2008, 01:01 AM
The curved design helps to reduce cabinet resonance. I believe the Athena's are of a different level of speakers, the problem is getting them sometimes audioadviser takes their sweet time getting sold out items off their site. If you want the Athenas you need to act fast. They were much more costly than the prices they are selling them for.

nasachusetts
03-17-2008, 01:41 AM
Well, I think I am probably going to go with the Polks. Thanks to everyone for their help, and I'll post back when I get it and let you know what I think.

gedalneil
03-17-2008, 10:42 AM
I just recently purchased a 36" Sony Wega CRT TV and am most pleased with the quality of this TV. I have had it for a few weeks now and just today noticed the color halos around the edges pretty stong. I do have 2 non-shielded floorstanding speakers both a little over 1 foot away from it. I immeditely moved the away from the TV but the halos were still there. I also have a shielded center speaker that sits on top of it so I moved that also, however, when I took it off the halo got stronger along the top of the screen. I turned off the set for a few minutes and then turned it back on and the picture was back to normal again. I put back the all the speakers and the picture was still fine. Does anyone know what happened? If I look at just a white screen I can still see a little hint of where the halos were but it isn't as obvious as it was for that moment. I thought it had to have been the speakers but I didn't have any trouble the whole time since I've had it and as I've said before the picture is fine now. Would you recommend that I buy expensive magnetically shielded floor speakers? Also, has anyone used a degaussing coil before? Do they work or would I risk permanently damaging the screen? I love this TV and I am not planning on moving to LCD or plasma anytime soon. Trinitron CRT's have a superior picture over any new format in my opinion the 16x9 enhanced option on this unit is amazing and is comparable to alot of HD sets that I've seen. Sorry for rambling on. Thanks for any help you may offer me in advance.

I had the 40 inch XBR. Yes, the speakers could be a problem but there is also another problem that I am not sure has been mentioned yet. It is actually the earths magnetic pull. The magnet in these TV's is so large that it can actually be effected by the earth itself. My 40 inch had a button to adjust this, and it worked (depending on the season). I know this sounds odd, but it is true. So, if you can, try moving your TV around.

nasachusetts
03-17-2008, 01:21 PM
You know, I was thinking that but I didn't really think it could happen. Hey, someone once told me that my TV has an operators code where I can go in and adjust settings (anyone know how to do this/where to find it) so maybe it has a button like that in there. Oh and one more thing, I had a subwoofer that I took away also, so that could of been helping too. Is this safe to try http://woil.ws/fixmonitor/?

TLS Guy
03-17-2008, 07:13 PM
I had the 40 inch XBR. Yes, the speakers could be a problem but there is also another problem that I am not sure has been mentioned yet. It is actually the earths magnetic pull. The magnet in these TV's is so large that it can actually be effected by the earth itself. My 40 inch had a button to adjust this, and it worked (depending on the season). I know this sounds odd, but it is true. So, if you can, try moving your TV around.

I think someone was having you on. The earth's magnetic field is minute compared to the field of a speaker or the fields generated by the electromagnets of the CRT. More likely the heavy coils are not properly fixed and the coils move.

Pyrrho
03-18-2008, 10:42 AM
I think someone was having you on. The earth's magnetic field is minute compared to the field of a speaker or the fields generated by the electromagnets of the CRT. More likely the heavy coils are not properly fixed and the coils move.

No, he is right. The earth's magnetic field does affect very large CRTs, and they have adjustments for this purpose. You can probably download an owner's manual for a 40" CRT TV and read it for yourself. Or possibly find information with an online search.

The reason it is relevant for very large sets (but not small ones) is as I said in my earlier post above; generally speaking, the larger the CRT, the more sensitive it is to magnetic interference. That is because the electron beams are fired from the rear of the tube to the front to make up the picture, and the electron beams are longer with a larger TV (picture tubes are generally deeper when they are bigger across the front). The electron beams are directed with magnetism, and thus can be diverted with magnetism. Thus, a small change in magnetism at the rear of the set will cause a greater difference in a large set where the electron beam hits the front of the tube, which means that it messes up the picture more. This is because the same angle of deflection will cause a greater distance of error at the front of the set (this is simple geometry, where the same angle change will result in a greater distance of difference when going further from the point of origin of the angle). This means, for example, that, typically, one can put a large magnet much closer to a 13" TV than a 27" TV (I selected those numbers, so you might be able to test the matter for yourself by sticking an unshielded speaker above a couple of different sized TVs).

However, he is probably wrong about the advice, as it should be in the manual if it is relevant to the TV mentioned in the post that started this thread. (At least, I hope he has read the manual for his set, and has paid attention to what it says. If not, he should read that before seeking additional advice.)

TLS Guy
03-18-2008, 01:07 PM
Pyrrho.

That was a very good post. The problem is that the magnetic field from the field coils are AC and the Earth's DC. So yes, in large tubes there does have to be compensation. It seems the mask which has to be of magnetic material is the most vulnerable. The line aperture mask of the Sony Trinitrons seem especially problematic, and are more easily damaged permanently. There is also apparently great risk of damaging them during degaussing.

WARNING about degaussing late model Sony Trinitron CRTs
The following has been confirmed by others.

(From: David Kuhajda (dkuhajda@locl.net).)

You should NEVER use a big degauss coil on ANY SONY WEGA tube, or ANY SONY 27" or larger CRT made after 1997. Sony deliberately put a small amount of magnetic field into the strapping and aperture grill to compensate and improve the convergence. A BIG degauss will remove this and make the tube look very bad.

A BIG manual degauss coil from about 3 feet away should have a low enough field to be safe. (Note: should) I NEVER use the large degauss coils on the Sony tubes after seeing the Sony video of how CRTs have been damaged. I USE a smaller degauss coil and work it on a Variac at a lowered AC voltage, and bring the voltage up each successive pass to degauss the CRT until it is cleared up.

If the internal degauss is not taking care of the problem, you have other things to look at. Has the yoke or yoke purity rings been moved? Have the TV or monitor been dropped? Are all the connections good on the degauss thermister? If it is a three leg thermister it still may be bad as those leave a small current flowing on the older Sony coils. Have any of the extra purity magnets fallen off the yoke or CRT?

Note that Sony tubes do NOT have shadow masks, but they have aperture grills which are an array of incredibly fine wires under tension. A BIG degauss coil can also rip the aperture grill away from the stabilization wires.

This is from the second of two useful articles I found on this topic.

http://www.anatekcorp.com/smask.htm

http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/crtfaq.htm#crtspk

It would seem to me that any center speaker used with one of these Trinitron tubes have not only good shielding, but a second magnet to neutralize the flux emanating from the pole gap. That is going to be few drivers, as it tends to add to driver distortion unless done carefully.

I guess the bottom line is to consider carefully if a Sony Trinitron is a wise choice for home theater.

This is a fascinating problem whose tentacles go a lot deeper than I would have imagined. Seems like a good reason to phase out the CRT.

nasachusetts
03-19-2008, 09:35 PM
Thanks for that post. I thought it would of been safe manually degaussing my TV. So I will not even bother with it. I received my Polk center speaker today and it is definitely a huge improvement over the KLH sound wise, just not magnetically shielding wise. I still get interference with it sitting right on top of my set. Right now I have it sitting on top of a wooden box on top of my TV about 6" away which helps. I am going to order one of these http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00009WE0X/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance and stack up something on top to rest the speaker on so it is more sturdy. I would also like to get 2 wall mounts for the front speakers when I get them, I need them to be able to hold 20lbs but I can't find any that will hold that much weight. Any ideas of what I can stack on top of the center speaker shelf that wouldn't end up looking too tacky? By lifting it up away from the TV, it needs to be 12" away from the screen so there is no interference. I can post some pics if that would help.
Thanks.

arvind_h
05-30-2008, 07:07 PM
Hi

I placed the center speaker of on my TV plus for a few years plus managed to somehow bump my TV when i moved it from one room to another. While there is picture clarity, i have color patches on the top two conrners of the TV (I am guessing that this is from the Paradigm center speakers more than the bump it recieved). I was also told that I could get this eliminated via degaussing (since the on/off automatic degausser did not work). Also i read on this forum something about BIG degaussers doing damage rather than fixing the problem. I was planning on buying something cheap such as the one shown in the link below.

Any of you experts have any advice on this. Hate to throw the TV out!!!


www_dot_sourcingmap_dot_com/hand-held-crt-picture-tube-degaussing-coil-repair-screen-degausser-p-1454.html[/url]

TLS Guy
05-31-2008, 12:23 AM
Hi

I placed the center speaker of on my TV plus for a few years plus managed to somehow bump my TV when i moved it from one room to another. While there is picture clarity, i have color patches on the top two conrners of the TV (I am guessing that this is from the Paradigm center speakers more than the bump it recieved). I was also told that I could get this eliminated via degaussing (since the on/off automatic degausser did not work). Also i read on this forum something about BIG degaussers doing damage rather than fixing the problem. I was planning on buying something cheap such as the one shown in the link below.

Any of you experts have any advice on this. Hate to throw the TV out!!!


www_dot_sourcingmap_dot_com/hand-held-crt-picture-tube-degaussing-coil-repair-screen-degausser-p-1454.html[/url]

Did you have the color patches before you bumped it? If not, then you probably have misaligned the yoke by bumping it, and it will have to be realigned. If your TV is a Trinitron, then you will have to be careful with degaussers

croseiv
05-31-2008, 08:39 AM
LOL! The title of this thread rally caught my eye. Sounds like an interesting doumentary worth watching.:)

arvind_h
05-31-2008, 02:53 PM
Did you have the color patches before you bumped it? If not, then you probably have misaligned the yoke by bumping it, and it will have to be realigned. If your TV is a Trinitron, then you will have to be careful with degaussers

I dont believe that I saw the color patches. There was some slight bending. Is it possible to "realign the yoke" by myself? Moving this beast around is a big turn off. Is it worth giving the degaussing a try at all first?

Thanks

jaydog67
06-06-2008, 12:39 PM
I'll 40th the comment to move your speakers away from your set. Or buy some shielded speakers.


Do you have permanent speakers on your set along the sides?.... If you do it may be possible that the mfgr... may have installed the side speakers wrong causing the color bands.

arvind_h
06-14-2008, 09:32 PM
Well it was ok for 6 years till I moved the TV and bumped it when i did that so i am certain that it was not that. The question I had if i could align the yoke on my own? If so is there a manual or guidlines? DO i need special instrumentation for it. Thanks very much for your heklp

arvind_h
06-15-2008, 08:38 AM
Did you have the color patches before you bumped it? If not, then you probably have misaligned the yoke by bumping it, and it will have to be realigned. If your TV is a Trinitron, then you will have to be careful with degaussers

ANy guidance on how to relaign the Yoker? A manual or somethign like that?

Thanks very mch

TLS Guy
06-15-2008, 11:22 AM
ANy guidance on how to relaign the Yoker? A manual or somethign like that?

Thanks very mch

Do not do this yourself. You need instruments and the voltages are very high. You will kill yourself if you don't know what you are doing.

croseiv
06-15-2008, 07:51 PM
I see the title to this thread and keep thinking that a solar flare is getting ready to hit or something...:D