Guys, i finally bought my System - Please have a Look

[scarface09]

for those of you who might remember me, i was the person who sold off his Bose system and was looking for something else. after nearly three agonizing months of research, travelling, auditioning, testing, i finally bought my speakers well within in the $700 range (including taxes, Cad)

this is my system:
Fronts: Sinclair Audio Brighton SB3600T
3 way tower
triple 6.5" Woven Fiberglass Hybrid woofers
1" Polymer Integrated Soft Dome Tweeter
DALtech (Dead as Lead)
bi-wirable
Center: Sinclair Audio BRIGHTON SB250C
dual 5.5" Woven Fiberglass Hybrid woofers
1" Polymer Integrated Soft Dome Tweeter
Rears: since i went over budget, i am useing carspeakers from a 93 plymoth
voyager. (i am a grd 12 student, dont criticize me please. lol)
subwoofer: (This is the only used product from the package)
Velodyne DPS 12.
a 12" velodyne speaks for itself.
Amplifier: I had this from before, will upgrade a couple years later.
Yamaha HTR 5640 @ 75 watts/channel


since the mains are bi-wireable, i hooked up the speaker outputs A and B from the reciever into the speakers, thus giving the fronts 150 watts/channel.

right now, lets just say, i am not only blown away, but have been vaporized by this. though there maybe better systems out there for 700. compared to bose, which i've had for 3 years, this is god like.
i'll post some pics once i figure out how to,

lemme know what you guys think
mark

[Seth=L]

since the mains are bi-wireable, i hooked up the speaker outputs A and B from the reciever into the speakers, thus giving the fronts 150 watts/channel.
I would not advise doing this. Also, when surround sound is activated, you will be loosing either the tweeter section or the woofer section because speaker section "B" will be deactivated. You will not get "more power" by bi-amping on a receiver such as that. If you would like a more detailed explanation as to why feel free to ask.:) But as such, running the receiver like this, especially in surround mode, is potentially harmful and may damage your receiver.

It sounds like you have a great start by the way.:D

[Guangui]

Seth is right, so go back to single amping the mains. In the future, when you upgrade your receiver will have what is called a C Channel, which is there for bi-amping purposes. Or, go with separate amps.

[mazersteven]

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[mazersteven]

Looks like an awesome system. Congratulations :D

I hope this system gives you many years of enjoyment.

http://www.torontohifi.com/images/sinclair_brighton.jpg

[ineednot]

I'll say you went over :)....in a great way..What did you give for them and where...

[rnatalli]

No worries, we have all been there.;)

Yup... I bought a Bose system when I was in 12th grade :eek:

[Soundman]

for those of you who might remember me, i was the person who sold off his Bose system and was looking for something else. after nearly three agonizing months of research, travelling, auditioning, testing, i finally bought my speakers well within in the $700 range (including taxes, Cad)

this is my system:
Fronts: Sinclair Audio Brighton SB3600T
3 way tower
triple 6.5" Woven Fiberglass Hybrid woofers
1" Polymer Integrated Soft Dome Tweeter
DALtech (Dead as Lead)
bi-wirable
Center: Sinclair Audio BRIGHTON SB250C
dual 5.5" Woven Fiberglass Hybrid woofers
1" Polymer Integrated Soft Dome Tweeter
Rears: since i went over budget, i am useing carspeakers from a 93 plymoth
voyager. (i am a grd 12 student, dont criticize me please. lol)
subwoofer: (This is the only used product from the package)
Velodyne DPS 12.
a 12" velodyne speaks for itself.
Amplifier: I had this from before, will upgrade a couple years later.
Yamaha HTR 5640 @ 75 watts/channel


since the mains are bi-wireable, i hooked up the speaker outputs A and B from the reciever into the speakers, thus giving the fronts 150 watts/channel.

right now, lets just say, i am not only blown away, but have been vaporized by this. though there maybe better systems out there for 700. compared to bose, which i've had for 3 years, this is god like.
i'll post some pics once i figure out how to,

lemme know what you guys think
mark

I would definitely not be ambarrassed about this system, especially considering you are in the 12th grade. Excellent! I know people who live their whole life listening with crappy speakers. A friend of mine has a $3,000 TV, but is running 5 crappy Sony saletites hooked up with his crappy Sony receiver. Your setup kicks serious arse by comparison and this guy is in his 40's. Some people live their whole life listening to poor audio. They just don't get it. You've figured things out early in life and should be commended for it. Good job with doing well with your budget. :)

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Looks like an awesome system. Congratulations :D

I hope this system gives you many years of enjoyment.

http://www.torontohifi.com/images/sinclair_brighton.jpg

Man, what an awesome looking system for a 12th grader!

I don't even think I had boom box when I was in 12th grade!:D

I didn't even have tower speakers until last year!:o

[Gimpy Ric]

I worked construction all summer before 12th. grade to buy my first stereo. I'm glad to see that some young people "get it". Congrats!

[scarface09]

thnxs.
i actually cannot believe i bought this myself.
i lesten everday and the hours melt away like nothing.

[scarface09]

I'll say you went over :)....in a great way..What did you give for them and where...

hey, all in all, including the sub, fronts and centers and wires, i paird around 800 with taxes.
the place i bought it from is called tele electronics (just google it and you'll see)
from my experience go to the Scarborough one if you are in toronto. if you want to buy/ audiotion, email me, i'll tell u the sales person to go to.
for the fronts i paid 350 for the pair, and the center i paid 150. i also picked up wires (which i regret because i should have just gone to home depot). so i spend about 550 there. then the rest of the money (250) i bought a second hand velodyne from craigslist.

lemme know
mark

[scarface09]

Man, what an awesome looking system for a 12th grader!

I don't even think I had boom box when I was in 12th grade!:D

I didn't even have tower speakers until last year!:o

i had to work my but of to get the bose system which was SUCH a bad decision. i bought it thinking it was the best system ever (this was when i was in grade 9 after doing 7 years of newspaper without spending a dime). i always though bose was amazing but when i hooked up everything, there was always something missing. i even bought a better amp at the time ( yahama HTR-5640 - which was better than crappy one i got), but everything sounded dead. finally, i hooked these babies up, and man, who knew just ONE speaker could do sooooo dammmm wellllll.

i know there are better systems up there, but my ear healing process has just begun. once i'm healed (aka have a job after college), i'm gonna upgrade again.

[scarface09]

I worked construction all summer before 12th. grade to buy my first stereo. I'm glad to see that some young people "get it". Congrats!

after years of work, dedication and commitment to try not to spend as much money as possible, i made enough to buy something that would hurt me rather that help me.

also, about your comment about ppl just dont get it, i agree. even though i dont know much about speakers, HZ to Khz, perfect placements, etc etc, all i know is that i love music (jazz, classical, almost EVERYTHING, i even have some korean songs, and some tamil music i think too :confused:), i love movies, and i love sound. based on that AND my strict budget:eek:, i bought these
once agian, thanks

[scarface09]

I would not advise doing this. Also, when surround sound is activated, you will be loosing either the tweeter section or the woofer section because speaker section "B" will be deactivated. You will not get "more power" by bi-amping on a receiver such as that. If you would like a more detailed explanation as to why feel free to ask.:) But as such, running the receiver like this, especially in surround mode, is potentially harmful and may damage your receiver.

It sounds like you have a great start by the way.:D

Seth, as soon as i read your comment, i ran from the second floor, to the basement to quickly unhook the wires from output B:eek:. my god, i dont know how i can thank you:) i never knew that this could be such a big problem. if it helps, i still had those gold/metal plates things on so power could go equally to the tweeter and mid's. :)
but still, thnxs.!!!!!!
saved me from ruining a reciever cause i know i cant afford one for another couple of years.:D
tnxs soo much,
mark

[RTRoberts]

Nice looking system !

What speakers did you test/sample before settling on these?

[ineednot]

hey, all in all, including the sub, fronts and centers and wires, i paird around 800 with taxes.
the place i bought it from is called tele electronics (just google it and you'll see)
from my experience go to the Scarborough one if you are in toronto. if you want to buy/ audiotion, email me, i'll tell u the sales person to go to.
for the fronts i paid 350 for the pair, and the center i paid 150. i also picked up wires (which i regret because i should have just gone to home depot). so i spend about 550 there. then the rest of the money (250) i bought a second hand velodyne from craigslist.

lemme know
mark

Assume, Mark....Unfortuniatley I live in Kansas City, Mo...Just a little to the South :)...I did see the website of tele electronics...I wonder if they would shipped to the states...I am sure it may take a little more coin then you paid...

[Seth=L]

Seth, as soon as i read your comment, i ran from the second floor, to the basement to quickly unhook the wires from output B:eek:. my god, i dont know how i can thank you:) i never knew that this could be such a big problem. if it helps, i still had those gold/metal plates things on so power could go equally to the tweeter and mid's. :)
but still, thnxs.!!!!!!
saved me from ruining a reciever cause i know i cant afford one for another couple of years.:D
tnxs soo much,
mark
Wow, leaving the Gold connectors on there was even more dangerous. If a connection had come loose power would have been pushed into the amplifier instantly causing damage to the receiver.:( Yeah, don't ever leave the gold connectors on when bi-amping.:eek: You got super lucky.:D

[stratman]

Congrats Mark!

This is what this hobby is all about. Enjoy.

[3db]

for those of you who might remember me, i was the person who sold off his Bose system and was looking for something else. after nearly three agonizing months of research, travelling, auditioning, testing, i finally bought my speakers well within in the $700 range (including taxes, Cad)

this is my system:
Fronts: Sinclair Audio Brighton SB3600T
3 way tower
triple 6.5" Woven Fiberglass Hybrid woofers
1" Polymer Integrated Soft Dome Tweeter
DALtech (Dead as Lead)
bi-wirable
Center: Sinclair Audio BRIGHTON SB250C
dual 5.5" Woven Fiberglass Hybrid woofers
1" Polymer Integrated Soft Dome Tweeter
Rears: since i went over budget, i am useing carspeakers from a 93 plymoth
voyager. (i am a grd 12 student, dont criticize me please. lol)
subwoofer: (This is the only used product from the package)
Velodyne DPS 12.
a 12" velodyne speaks for itself.
Amplifier: I had this from before, will upgrade a couple years later.
Yamaha HTR 5640 @ 75 watts/channel


since the mains are bi-wireable, i hooked up the speaker outputs A and B from the reciever into the speakers, thus giving the fronts 150 watts/channel.

right now, lets just say, i am not only blown away, but have been vaporized by this. though there maybe better systems out there for 700. compared to bose, which i've had for 3 years, this is god like.
i'll post some pics once i figure out how to,

lemme know what you guys think
mark

Congrats man. Very well done for $700 espcially here in Canada. I saw the SInclair line here in Ottawa at one of the local dealers and found them to be well made. I didn't have time to audition them unfortunately. Its cool to see another Canadian brand being mentioned here. :)

[Guangui]

Wow, leaving the Gold connectors on there was even more dangerous. If a connection had come loose power would have been pushed into the amplifier instantly causing damage to the receiver.:( Yeah, don't ever leave the gold connectors on when bi-amping.:eek: You got super lucky.:D

Scarface, the gold connector is there to act as a bridge between the connections. But, when you bi-amp you take that bridge out, as you are providing separate power to each set of connectors. With good luck all that would have happened is that a protection circuit or fuse would have tripped, but the chances of happening what Seth mentioned were extremely high.

[scarface09]

Scarface, the gold connector is there to act as a bridge between the connections. But, when you bi-amp you take that bridge out, as you are providing separate power to each set of connectors. With good luck all that would have happened is that a protection circuit or fuse would have tripped, but the chances of happening what Seth mentioned were extremely high.

wow, i cant believe i put all of my equipment in jeopardy. i really appreciate it you pointing out and telling me my flaw. really appreciate it.
also, there is one thing i am curious about. does having 75 watts/ channel good enough to drive these speakers. also, for around the 400$ range, what is a good reciever that i can buy.
i open to any company as long as it lasts me a good 5 solid years. also, i dont care about HDMI or any bells and whistles (i have a 32inch crt and i probly wont upgrade for another 5 odd years.). also, 5.1 minimum.

also, i was just wondering, what is the speaker output B for? can i hook up another set of speakers lying around.

another question i have is this, say i hook up 2 other speakers to part B, will that ruin anything. also, i will have both A and B enabled.
i have another set of speakers (quest towers - quite old) that take 50 watts i believe. can i hook those up the a reciever that is 75 watts / channel? will it ruin my speakers or the reciever of both.

sorry for all the trouble, but i was just curious.
thnxs
scar

[Seth=L]

I have a dirty little secret scarface, I only power my speakers with 25 watts per channel and I am one smilen dude.:D My speakers are 90dB @ 1watt/meter 8 ohms. Your front speakers 92 dB @ 1watt/meter, which means your speakers are likely to go louder with less wattage than mine. Your center and surrounds are as efficient, but they rarely require more power than the fronts (sometimes the center does, but not enough to cause concern). If your room is medium to small, trust me, you don't need more power. When and if you decide you need more features, I would start looking for a receiver that has the features you want.;)

[Thunder18]

I had a boombox in 12th grade and it was crappy!

[scarface09]

I have a dirty little secret scarface, I only power my speakers with 25 watts per channel and I am one smilen dude.:D My speakers are 90dB @ 1watt/meter 8 ohms. Your front speakers 92 dB @ 1watt/meter, which means your speakers are likely to go louder with less wattage than mine. Your center and surrounds are as efficient, but they rarely require more power than the fronts (sometimes the center does, but not enough to cause concern). If your room is medium to small, trust me, you don't need more power. When and if you decide you need more features, I would start looking for a receiver that has the features you want.;)

i really dont understand this mumbo jumbo, but i am willing to learn. I really really really from the bottom of my heart appreciate your help. guess my recievers good enough.
one question i wanted to ask you was that, can i hook up secondary speakrers to the output B from the reciever.
also, if the speakers are rated 50 watts, can i hook them up to a reciever thats 75 watts output?
will that put my speakers or reciever in jeopardy. i belieev its the reciever thats gonn get messed up.

thnxs SOOO MUCH though
Seth....the audio Guru!!!!!!!!

[SnarkHunter]

Hey congrats on the new system, I just bought one as well, in Toronto, around the same price. Went a little different route than you though, mostly because surround sound was not an important factor for me. For 700 CAD, I got a pair of PSB Alpha B1s and a NAD C 325BEE (Enjoying them both, oh so much). I auditioned the Sinclairs, I was really shocked at the price/performance of the speakers (good highs, blurry lows though). But I have some space restrictions so full towers would not do, and the bookshelf Sinclairs were not as good as there bigger brothers (low end was apparently just one constant boom), they were also bit high pitched and screechy to me. Anyway congrats, now we have to start saving up for that Turntable or SACD player.

I am at a fork here, analogue or digital. Which step to take next (hopefully i will eventually do both). Uh someone please chime in.

[3db]

Hey congrats on the new system, I just bought one as well, in Toronto, around the same price. Went a little different route than you though, mostly because surround sound was not an important factor for me. For 700 CAD, I got a pair of PSB Alpha B1s and a NAD C 325BEE (Enjoying them both, oh so much). I auditioned the Sinclairs, I was really shocked at the price/performance of the speakers (good highs, blurry lows though). But I have some space restrictions so full towers would not do, and the bookshelf Sinclairs were not as good as there bigger brothers (low end was apparently just one constant boom), they were also bit high pitched and screechy to me. Anyway congrats, now we have to start saving up for that Turntable or SACD player.

I am at a fork here, analogue or digital. Which step to take next (hopefully i will eventually do both). Uh someone please chime in.

I have both, analog and CD. There are good and bad recordings in both media. The fun is in the hunt for the good. ;)