Want 2 buy 2 main spekers

[Halla]

Please help - I want to get myself 2 tower, floor standing, front speakers to go with my plinius p10. No other speakers is needed at this stage. The room size is about 5 x 7 metres. I listen to music aswell as watching movies. Please help with any suggestions as to speaker brand , watt and ohm.
I do not want to spend more than $ 7 000 for both of the front speakers.

Please advise

[mazersteven]

Please help - I want to get myself 2 tower, floor standing, front speakers to go with my plinius p10. No other speakers is needed at this stage. The room size is about 5 x 7 metres. I listen to music aswell as watching movies. Please help with any suggestions as to speaker brand , watt and ohm.
I do not want to spend more than $ 7 000 for both of the front speakers.

Please advise

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38377

$7000 US Cash?

[Halla]

Yes, +/- 7 thousand dollar. What do you recommend?

[mazersteven]

Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus
http://www.sonusfaber.com/index.html

Linbrook Signature System
http://www.tyleracoustics.com/linbrook.html

[mazersteven]

Dynaudio Contour S 5.4 $8000
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/systems/lines/contour/contour_s_5_4.php

Should be able to get to your target $7000 with these.

Same with these

Bowers & Wilkins 803D
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=1156&sc=ht

[Halla]

Thanks,

I really like the 803d's and it is available here in Cape Town. Do you think the p10 has got what it takes to justify the 803's?

[mazersteven]

Thanks,

I really like the 803d's and it is available here in Cape Town. Do you think the p10 has got what it takes to justify the 803's?

I really know nothing about that amp. It is the first time I have heard about Plinius Audio.

The 803D's are efficient speakers, but they also like power. Their specs say "Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme".

I'm sure your amp will drive them. The question is will it drive them to get full dynamics out of them?

[Davemcc]

My little 125 wpc Rotel was driving B&W 803S's in splendid fashion during my amp shopping. I'm sure any amp that's better than my little Rotel will drive the 803D's just fine, as well.

[mazersteven]

My little 125 wpc Rotel was driving B&W 803S's in splendid fashion during my amp shopping. I'm sure any amp that's better than my little Rotel will drive the 803D's just fine, as well.

Big difference in the power handling between the 803S & 803D's.

Recommended Amplifier Power 50W - 250W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

[alexsound]

Please help - I want to get myself 2 tower, floor standing, front speakers to go with my plinius p10. No other speakers is needed at this stage. The room size is about 5 x 7 metres. I listen to music aswell as watching movies. Please help with any suggestions as to speaker brand , watt and ohm.
I do not want to spend more than $ 7 000 for both of the front speakers.

Please advise

Paradigm Signature S8. I think they retail for about 6-7,000 a pair. I heard a pair of these about a year ago and they simply blew me away.

[flippo]

Mirage OMD-28'S

http://miragespeakers.com/v2/product_page.php?open=lines&subid=666&id=667

[jcPanny]

AV123 will be offering the LS6 and LS9 line array speakers in the $3-6k price range that would be great for a 2 channel system in a large room. They start shipping this month. Their Onix Strat Mini's are a full range speaker that would work better for a smaller 2 channel system for about $2k/pair.

[Guangui]

I am pretty sure that you don't want to go the Internet Direct way, as freight from USA to S.A. would be expensive. So, buying locally will probably be your best bet. Paradigm, Monitor Audio, PSB, B&W, Sonus, and Linn are probably available in your area, and all of them make good speakers in that range, so I recommend to audition all you can.

Paradigm: http://www.audiospecialists.co.za/

Monitor Audio: ????

PSB: http://www.avspecialists.co.za/ They also have Mission speakers.

B&W: Audio Visual Counsel Cape - Somerset West
Shop 14,
Waterstone Village Shopping Centre,
Cape Town,
Western Cape 7130
Tel: 270218510199

Sonus: Audiotronic, Inc.

Linn: Soundlab
Jarvis House, Jarvis Street
De Waterkant
Cape Town
South Africa
Tel: 021 421 6741

Linnbrook are Internet Direct...

Hope this helps!

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I recommend the Definitive Technology BP7000SC ($3,600/pr DigitalCraze.com).

http://www.definitivetech.com/reviews/BP7000SC_Revu_AVR307.pdf

http://www.definitivetech.com/reviews/BP7000HT4C.pdf

Specification
Design: Bipolar 3-Way (Tweeter, Midrange/Upper Bass, & Subwoofer)
F.R. 20Hz-20kHz +/-3dB @90dB w/m
Dimensions: 8-15/16" W x 16-5/8" D x 52-1/2" H
Impedance: 4 ohms
Drivers: 6.5" bass/mid x 4, 1" pure tweeter x 2, 14" sub x 1, 14" radiators x 2
Built-In Amp: 1,800 watts RMS for Subwoofer section
Max Amp: 1,000 watts
Finish: Piano-Gloss Black or Golden Cherry
Wiring: Bi-Wire/Bi-Amp Capable + LFE Input
Retail: $2499 ea.

I absolutely love my BP7000SCs!!!:D

[Guangui]

I recommend the Definitive Technology BP7000SC ($3,600/pr DigitalCraze.com).

http://www.definitivetech.com/reviews/BP7000SC_Revu_AVR307.pdf

http://www.definitivetech.com/reviews/BP7000HT4C.pdf

Specification
Design: Bipolar 3-Way (Tweeter, Midrange/Upper Bass, & Subwoofer)
F.R. 20Hz-20kHz +/-3dB @90dB w/m
Dimensions: 8-15/16" W x 16-5/8" D x 52-1/2" H
Impedance: 4 ohms
Drivers: 6.5" bass/mid x 4, 1" pure tweeter x 2, 14" sub x 1, 14" radiators x 2
Built-In Amp: 1,800 watts RMS for Subwoofer section
Max Amp: 1,000 watts
Finish: Piano-Gloss Black or Golden Cherry
Wiring: Bi-Wire/Bi-Amp Capable + LFE Input
Retail: $2499 ea.

I absolutely love my BP7000SCs!!!:D


Good speakers, but no dealers in South Africa....

[Halla]

Big difference in the power handling between the 803S & 803D's.

Recommended Amplifier Power 50W - 250W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

You guys know your speakers but let me tell you the people in New Zealand at Plinius Audio do know how to build an power amp.
....but then again we know how to play rugby and cricket(little bragging).Check the P10 out on www.pliniusaudio.com and give me your opinion on whether the plinius p10 will be able the b&w 803d's with ease.
Please reply

[eddiem67]

I have a pair of Totem acoustics Winds that are a perfect match for Plinius Amps, I can do 7K

[Halla]

I am pretty sure that you don't want to go the Internet Direct way, as freight from USA to S.A. would be expensive. So, buying locally will probably be your best bet. Paradigm, Monitor Audio, PSB, B&W, Sonus, and Linn are probably available in your area, and all of them make good speakers in that range, so I recommend to audition all you can.

Paradigm: http://www.audiospecialists.co.za/

Monitor Audio: ????

PSB: http://www.avspecialists.co.za/ They also have Mission speakers.

B&W: Audio Visual Counsel Cape - Somerset West
Shop 14,
Waterstone Village Shopping Centre,
Cape Town,
Western Cape 7130
Tel: 270218510199

Sonus: Audiotronic, Inc.

Linn: Soundlab
Jarvis House, Jarvis Street
De Waterkant
Cape Town
South Africa
Tel: 021 421 6741

Linnbrook are Internet Direct...

Hope this helps!

Great Help - Thanks Guangui
803d or 803s for p10??

[3db]

I have a pair of Totem acoustics Winds that are a perfect match for Plinius Amps, I can do 7K

I 've never heard them before but I was going to recommend them with the caviat that I've not heard them.

http://www.totemacoustic.com/us/products/columns/wind/specifications/

Others suggestions are;

http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/Platinum-Series/Platinum-T8-Tower
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/Platinum-Series/Platinum-T6-Tower

http://www.focusaudio.ca/index1.htm (master series)

http://www.gershmanacoustics.com/products.html

[bandphan]

Krell R2

Resolution 2
SYSTEM TYPE: 3-way floor standing
ENCLOSURE TYPE: Bass reflex
DRIVERS: Two 8" woofers, one 6.5" midrange
driver, one 1" dual-concentric-ring
tweeter with integral waveguide
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 32 Hz-20 kHz, +/- 2.5 dB
-3 dB@ 30 Hz and 22 kHz
-6 dB @ 25 Hz and 30 kHz
SENSITIVITY: 89 dB SPL with 2.83 V @ 1 M
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE: 4 Ohms
FINISH: Cherry
DIMENSIONS: (WxHxD) 11.6 x 48.0 x 19.7 in.
29.5 x 121.9 x 50.0 cm
WEIGHT: 140 lb., 63.3 kg

[mazersteven]

Check the P10 out on www.pliniusaudio.com and give me your opinion on whether the plinius p10 will be able the b&w 803d's with ease.
Please reply


The only issue I question is whether the Plinius will be able to drive the 803D's at higher SPL (80 and over) levels, without distortion or mudding up. How accurate, and detailed with music will they be? At low to moderate volumes there shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe someone will be able to answer this.

803D--Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

Plinius--200 Watts RMS per channel into 8 Ohms

[Davemcc]

The only issue I question is whether the Plinius will be able to drive the 803D's at higher SPL (80 and over) levels, without distortion or mudding up. How accurate, and detailed with music will they be? At low to moderate volumes there shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe someone will be able to answer this.

803D--Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

Plinius--200 Watts RMS per channel into 8 Ohms

:confused: I don't really see the problem. A 50w amp unclipped is within the recommended range. The Plinius falls very near the center of the recommended range. One certainly doesn't need 500w to drive the 803D, which has reasonable sensitivity at 90dB spl (2.83V, 1m). Most program material is only going to need few watts anyway.

The bigger issue I see (an probably not even an issue) is that the 803D is rated at 8Ohm nominal - 3 Ohm minimum. The Plinius is rated to 300w @ 4 Ohm, but I'm sure that it could handle a frequency specific load at 3 Ohm.

I have to say that the Plinius P10/B&W 803D looks like a stellar combination.

[WmAx]

The only issue I question is whether the Plinius will be able to drive the 803D's at higher SPL (80 and over) levels, without distortion or mudding up. How accurate, and detailed with music will they be? At low to moderate volumes there shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe someone will be able to answer this.

803D--Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

Plinius--200 Watts RMS per channel into 8 Ohms

At 90dB rated sensitivity(assuming this is an accurate rating), a pair of B&W 803D should be able to operate up to 85-86 dB average RMS SPL values with up to 20dB peak values over the 85dB with a true 50 watts per speaker at 2 meters distance with no danger of ever clipping. This does assume some minor room gain. This also assumes the amplifier in question is suited to the impedance/electrical phase shift swings of the 803D.

If high SPL(90dB or over) is required, just throw a 500 watt/channel professional amp at the speakers. :)

-Chris

[mazersteven]

If high SPL(90dB or over) is required, just throw a 500 watt/channel professional amp at the speakers. :)

-Chris

So are you saying that these speakers could suffer from using that amp at higher volume levels?

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The bigger issue I see (an probably not even an issue) is that the 803D is rated at 8Ohm nominal - 3 Ohm minimum. The Plinius is rated to 300w @ 4 Ohm, but I'm sure that it could handle a frequency specific load at 3 Ohm.



My Def Tech BP7000SC has a 2.7 ohms minimum, CLR3000 has a 2.1 ohms mininum, & SM450 has a 3.2 ohms minimum. My Acurus amps are 300w @ 4 ohms, and have absolutely no problem driving them. I'm sure the Plinius will drive those B&W 803Ds perfectly.

[WmAx]

So are you saying that these speakers could suffer from using that amp at higher volume levels?

Well, of course, if you drive the 50 watt amp into continuous clipping by using the speakers at 90dB average SPL, you very well cound end up feeding the tweeters far too much power (consider the harmonics of the lower frequency clipped waveform spreading into the treble band) - causing possible damage to the tweeters.

-Chris

[PENG]

If you can get the 803D for your self imposed spending limit of $7K, and you like neutral sound, go for it. Your P10 is rated 300WPC into 4 ohms and 40A per channel short duration peak. My guess is that it will output close to 400WPC into 3 ohms. Even if the 803D dips down to 3 ohms at low bass frequencies (I would say unlikely) the P10 will still have enough power on hand to control the speakers. That being said, you still need to be careful in the beginning, to make sure you don't push the amp anywhere near its clipping point or you risk burning out the diamond tweeter.

The Paradigm S8 is also a good choice but I think the 803S/803D are of higher quality overall.